Four simple questions ....

[togor]

Actually you are more interested in your own straw man replicas of me because they're easier to argue against than the real thing. You could put your assumptions to the test, but no fun in that either. But sure let's move on, with you getting in your usual last word.

[lyman]

Actually you are more interested in your own straw man replicas of me because they're easier to argue against than the real thing. You could put your assumptions to the test, but no fun in that either. But sure let's move on, with you getting in your usual last word.

actually, you are not correct,

I read what you post, and reply to that,
you tend to get defensive when you realize what you have posted (that may be your true beliefs) and then blame others thoughts of you


we had the fudd conversation, and several times over the past year or so you have posted about restricting gun owners rights , even suggesting semi autos become NFA,

iirc at the is same time you made comments about how it would save lives in Chicago etc even tho the stat's show that it would have 0 impact,



there is no real thing with you, you attack, get swarmy, etc anyone that does not live in togor world, and then go on the pity party defensive when someone calls you out,


again, move on,

[TSimonetti]

Pence? What has he done except stay out of the line of fire? You didn't mention Jared in your list of stars, but Pence has done even less.

Miller? A dark prince for sure. But the base loves him.

Kudlow?

On Covid, March 6:

On the aftermath of the crash, Feb '09:

That one really sticks out given the recent mega-bills signed by Trump.

This one people will really enjoy, from August of 2015:

Kudlow is the guy who consistently scores 10% on True/False tests.

I don't think Kushner or Ivanka are particularly valuable or effective advisors. But I know why they are there and I have heard that Ivanka has actually championed some liberal causes against her Father.

Pence is leading the Coronavirus task force. But I guess that's nothing (eyeroll)

All of your other quotes are either ancient history or do not refute Kudlow as my pick. The economy was stellar before the virus crash. Everyone on the Left said tariffs against China would kill us, renegotiating NAFTA would kill us, America-First economic policy would kill us..etc.etc. They all made us stronger on the world stage. Paul Krugman became the biggest Nobel Prize winner turned horse's ass in history when he predicted doom and gloom starting on day one of the Trump Presidency. He could not have been more wrong.

[togor]

Some of what you say is true about Krugman. One thing that he and Trump agree on is that deficits don't matter. I disagree. If we ever get to the point where too much money chases too few goods, then we good be looking at stagflation, high interest rates to break the inflation cycle. Then we're rolling over low interest debt to higher interest.

BTW the next clear summary I read about how USCMA is meaningfully different than NAFTA will be the first.

But back to Covid-19. If Trump is really such a superb manager, he should relish being in the driver's seat at such a critical time. That we get "nobody could have seen this coming" and "the states lead the way" is surely not what the base would have predicted, say back in 2016. So to me there is an adjustment of standards downward to match the performance.

[S.A. Boggs]

actually, you are not correct,

I read what you post, and reply to that,
you tend to get defensive when you realize what you have posted (that may be your true beliefs) and then blame others thoughts of you


we had the fudd conversation, and several times over the past year or so you have posted about restricting gun owners rights , even suggesting semi autos become NFA,

iirc at the is same time you made comments about how it would save lives in Chicago etc even tho the stat's show that it would have 0 impact,



there is no real thing with you, you attack, get swarmy, etc anyone that does not live in togor world, and then go on the pity party defensive when someone calls you out,


again, move on,

Togey is an interesting study from a psychological aspect, much like reading a case history of redundancy. Many Freudian slips to be precise and following the DSM-4R. What I am sad about is that I did not have his material while I was doing my Tier 4 Practicum in college.
Sam

[dryheat]

Togey is an interesting study from a psychological aspect, much like reading a case history of redundancy. Many Freudian slips to be precise and following the DSM-4R. What I am sad about is that I did not have his material while I was doing my Tier 4 Practicum in college.
Sam

Oy,vey.
Actually. Actually. Actually...
- I disagree.- Where'd that come from? It's rarely heard around here. [bananas jumping up and down].
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-Some of what you say is true about Krugman. One thing that he and Trump agree on is that deficits don't matter. I disagree. If we ever get to the point where too much money chases too few goods, then we good be looking at stagflation, high interest rates to break the inflation cycle. Then we're rolling over low interest debt to higher interest.-
Stagflation. There's and oldy. My dear departed step mom hooked up with an advisor. He took control of her money. I was worried. She prayed for guidance. I never met the guy but he directed her well. When interest rates hit 21% my mom made a ton of money.

[TSimonetti]

Some of what you say is true about Krugman. One thing that he and Trump agree on is that deficits don't matter. I disagree. If we ever get to the point where too much money chases too few goods, then we good be looking at stagflation, high interest rates to break the inflation cycle. Then we're rolling over low interest debt to higher interest.

BTW the next clear summary I read about how USCMA is meaningfully different than NAFTA will be the first.

But back to Covid-19. If Trump is really such a superb manager, he should relish being in the driver's seat at such a critical time. That we get "nobody could have seen this coming" and "the states lead the way" is surely not what the base would have predicted, say back in 2016. So to me there is an adjustment of standards downward to match the performance.

You make a couple of very good points here.

There is a real danger of inflation in the next 12 -18 months. Some inflation under 5 percent for a short time would be normal with such a novel startup we are facing but with Congress eager to pump 6 trillion dollars into the money supply from spending and guaranteed loans it's bound to get higher. Krugman sold his soul a long time ago to become a political hack. Trump probably needed Kudlow in order to thrive in his first term. But he needed a fiscally responsible Congress way more. If Paul Ryan and McConnell hadn't screwed him over, he could have accomplished more while he could. Trump was not eager to raise the debt ceiling but he was boxed into a corner.

Trump does need to step aside more during these task force briefings. But he also needs to put a reign on Birx and Fauci. They are not policy makers, they are simply analysts and advisers. When Fauci says (paraphrasing) "The virus controls the timeline for opening the economy" He's right to a point but not completely right. The problem with that is we will get into a situation where some political opportunists will use each death after the re-open date as a sledgehammer to Trump's head. We already see the setting of the stage in editorials like Jennifer Rubin, who counseled Biden to say that Trump wants people to die because he is currently talking about opening the country back up. These are going to be scary times not so much from the virus, but because the virus is being politically weaponized perhaps by both sides given Trump's bombastic gloating at his conferences, but far more dangerous political weaponizing will occur on the Left mark my words.

[S.A. Boggs]

Isn't it interesting that the operation on the patient was a success yet the patient died? Democrats NEED a depression to show how "right" they are and large government is good.
A government that can give everything has to take everything. Government is not a producer it is a user in astronomical quantities of anything. Government is like fire, a wonderful servant a horrible master.
Sam

[Roadkingtrax]

Isn't it interesting that the operation on the patient was a success yet the patient died? Democrats NEED a depression to show how "right" they are and large government is good.
A government that can give everything has to take everything. Government is not a producer it is a user in astronomical quantities of anything. Government is like fire, a wonderful servant a horrible master.
Sam

You no longer have a larger government argument. Both Parties share that quality.

[lyman]

You no longer have a larger government argument. Both Parties share that quality.

and have for years,

the pork barrel also rolls generously thru both parties as well

[TSimonetti]

You no longer have a larger government argument. Both Parties share that quality.

Part of the blame goes to the media, who are cheerleaders for big government and who demagogue any reduction in a projected increase in spending as a draconian cut. Republicans got beat to shreds over this year after year and have just decided to join the big government team. There are almost no fiscal conservatives left in the Republican Party.

[S.A. Boggs]

What is going to be interesting and suicide for society is when the merry go round abruptly stops and the music is no longer played. Can one imagine the large metropolitan areas chance of survival?
Sam

[Vern Humphrey]

What is going to be interesting and suicide for society is when the merry go round abruptly stops and the music is no longer played. Can one imagine the large metropolitan areas chance of survival?
Sam

We may be seeing a preview of that -- not only is the disease concentrated in such areas, but the shortages of food are beginning to appear.

[Roadkingtrax]

We may be seeing a preview of that -- not only is the disease concentrated in such areas, but the shortages of food are beginning to appear.

Flipside, rural areas do not have the same hospital availability. So it may be a wash.

[togor]

Yes a wash.

Harder to get the disease, but harder to get treatment for a serious case.

Regarding supplies, rural areas may see less pressure, or may get cleaned out by people driving automobiles to/from the city. To the extent that it ever becomes a matter of getting something to as many people for as little effort as possible (bang-for-buck argument), say pills or a vaccine, rural areas will be at the back of the line.

At the end of the day, people will get priority over acres.