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Here tis... Solid proof that The Donald sh-t canned 20,000 hospital beds in NYC before he bought in the coronavirus to the USA.
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Of course Cuomo has made mistakes. Pretty much every leader has, excepting, in your view, the guy you mention in the title of your post.
Why stop at 20,000? Build your straw men bigger, say 50,000 or 100,000 hospital beds. -
What was wrong with closing hospitals that were being paid for by the citizens of the state? Shouldn't hospitals be profit centers?To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC PolicyComment
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I was driving and had to go. I stopped at a gas station and used the rest room. feeling guilty about using their facilities and not buying anything, I bought a sausage biscuit.
The lady behind the counter looked at me suspiciously. "Did yew git gas?"
"No, Ma'am. I ain't et the biscuit yet."
She had NO sense of humor.
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By that logic military hospitals should be profit centers during shooting wars. Soldiers should factor their potential out-of-pocket costs when deciding whether or not to go through that doorway or down that road.
Most don't know that the for-profit hospital is a recent phenomena, and many University affiliated medical centers are still incorporated as non-profit.
Vernon enjoys multiple options for socialized medicine so his opinion on this subject has to be taken with a brick of salt.
The health care sector is huge. And some parts of it have a functioning competitive marketplace that holds costs down. But in the main, the basic problem is: if you're sick, how much will you spend to get better? Answer: All of it! So it's not like buying a truck--new/used, Ford/Chevy/Toyota. We're the only country that can't seem to wrap our heads around that.Comment
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Dang, straight from the official organ of "The Struggle."
Actually this shows one of the problems with government run health care, the need to trim since the public hospitals don't run a surplus (profit) they are a big drain on state funds. This is part of the reason publicly funded hospitals like Ben Taub in Houston or Bellview in New York, both of which I have some experience with though not as a patient, are generally considered inferior to their private counterparts. This is not just because they are a last resort hospital, often, for the poor, but tend to be underfunded.
Dr. Birx stated that in the UK there are a total of 8,000 ventilators nationwide. She said that would be the equivalent of 40,000 in the United States. In fact there are over 150,000 ventilators in the U.S. though many are not where they are most needed in the NYC metro hot spot and jurisdictions and institutions that own them are reluctant to give them up for obvious reasons. We actually still have a small reserve. One of the reasons for our situation on this vital piece of equipment is "for profit" medicine.
I don't think it entirely co-incidental that the countries with the biggest problems right now are single payer. Before the defenders of single payer call me out on this I am aware that Germany and Canada have low rates of death related to infection in the pandemic.Comment
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Ya need to understand that not for profits can be extremely profitable for some folks connected to them. But yes, it is nice to have essential services removed from the bottom line. Medevac here is set up as a NP statewide. They take what the insurers pay as 80%. Next door not so. Go price a brand new 4x4 diesel p/u if you get scraped off of the pavement in a rural area. Make sure your auto policy has a nice medical payment schedule.Comment
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In 2015 they knew that NY would not be able to handle a large pandemic with current levels of supplies and funding. Cuomo decided to fund solar panels instead of hospitals. He made his choice. In his defense, this was a really bad pandemic, but his hysterics and hyperbole early on did not help the situation. NY was never going to run out of ventilators, but he had an agenda. The Federal Government's job is not to stand on the street corner handing out ventilators and masks and building hospitals and rooms. That is the state governors' job. NY has a decades long law on the book that restricts the number medical facilities that are allowed to be built. His legislature could repeal that law tomorrow. Democrats who were crying about Trump being a dictator are now criticizing him for not acting like a post constitutional dictator. Mark my words, a future Democratic President with a democrat led congress is going to run roughshod over the Constitution and civil liberties if and when he is faced with a similar global crisis.Comment
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Maybe NY thought like the other 49 states that the Federal government was going to be on it. Blame anybody but Trump, right? To be sure some governors made mistakes, and some are continuing to make them as we speak. But none of them imagined that the Feds, having claimed jursidiction of pandemic response as a national issue, would let a virus in like an unlatched swinging gate. How was NY supposed to ban flights from Europe without the Feds overriding them. NY didn't, but if they tried, the Feds would have shut them down, and the courts would have backed the Feds.
Was Ebola in 2014 a states' issue? Lord knows the right criticized the snot out of Obama for 2 deaths, 11 cases. Can someone explain that to me, given the budding "state's rights" argument for Covid?Comment
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your argument only shows your bias,
are you for States having rights to do things,, (Coumo's State limits the amount of hospitals that can be built,,,,) or do you think Governor's and the legislative body is just a figure head that needs to do as told by the Feds?
guessing you want to change from United States to just United?Comment
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