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  • free1954
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 1165

    #16
    Originally posted by Johnny P
    The flu epidemic of 1918 was brought under control primarily by social distancing, not political infighting. Now it seems that politics and blame is the largest distracter in efforts to find an answer to our current epidemic.
    good point. the country was still united from the war. now the war is within our own country.

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    Originally posted by TSimonetti
    The ground being broken is that this certificate is going to be a not so gentle nudge to compel Americans to get an antibody test. Simply put, History's greatest economy was shut down because of 60,000 deaths from this virus. There's a pretty good chance in my estimation that those without the certificate can be ostracized and punished in many different ways, in fact, in as many ways as thousands of petty bureaucrats and technocrats and private sector do-gooders can think of, especially if we are to expect a re-occurrance of this virus as soon as this fall. Flu shots used to be voluntary. How much longer before people get punished in some way for not getting one? These certificates ramp up the big brother factor in this country from level 4 to around level 8.

    When you see an idea, it's often prudent to think of the worst side effects or results of that idea. This is one of those ideas.

    perhaps this certificate will be the biblical MARK OF THE BEAST. no buying or selling without it.

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    • TSimonetti
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 303

      #17
      Originally posted by free1954
      good point. the country was still united from the war. now the war is within our own country.
      Well keep in mind we had a Constitution hating Democrat President at the time who was an avowed racist, who believed in racial eugenics, who purged African Americans from all areas of the federal government, who jailed dissidents, and helped plant the seeds of global governance and of Fascism in Europe.

      Oh and the next time you hear some pointy headed media type talking about the Low IQ or scholarly level of a Republican President keep in mind that Wilson was perhaps our most educated President and one of our worst Presidents.
      Last edited by TSimonetti; 04-11-2020, 04:10.

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      • Gun Smoke
        Banned
        • Sep 2019
        • 1658

        #18
        Originally posted by TSimonetti
        Well keep in mind we had a Constitution hating Democrat President at the time who was an avowed racist, who believed in racial eugenics, who purged African Americans from all areas of the federal government, who jailed dissidents, and helped plant the seeds of global governance and of Fascism in Europe.

        Oh and the next time you hear some pointy headed media type talking about the Low IQ or scholarly level of a Republican President keep in mind that Wilson was perhaps our most educated President and one of our worst Presidents.
        All democrats hate our constitution and want to abolish the 2nd.

        My grandfather spoke ill about no one but fought in WW1 and hated Wilson. Many feel that was a war we never should have entered.

        Maybe now more people will take Trumps policy's more seriously as far as border control, who is allowed to become citizens and restrictions on travel both incoming and outgoing. Also, what is decades overdue is the dependence upon other countries. The less we import the more we produce here. We need drastic limits on importing people as well.
        Last edited by Gun Smoke; 04-11-2020, 04:49.

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        • TSimonetti
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 303

          #19
          Originally posted by Gun Smoke
          All democrats hate our constitution and want to abolish the 2nd.

          My grandfather spoke ill about no one but fought in WW1 and hated Wilson. Many feel that was a war we never should have entered.

          Maybe now more people will take Trumps policy's more seriously as far as border control, who is allowed to become citizens and restrictions on travel both incoming and outgoing. Also, what is decades overdue is the dependence upon other countries. The less we import the more we produce here. We need drastic limits on importing people as well.
          Americans see the Constitution as our freedom papers. Democrats (and quite a few Republicans) view the Constitution as a great big roadblock with a stop sign. That's why they hate it.

          The modern progressive movement was started by Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson. No movement has been more ostensibly compassionate yet more dangerous to our Republic.
          Last edited by TSimonetti; 04-11-2020, 05:19.

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          • RED
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11689

            #20
            The death numbers are bogus. If you have the virus and get struct by lightening you are counted as a COVID-19 death.

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            • Roadkingtrax
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 7835

              #21
              Originally posted by RED
              The death numbers are bogus. If you have the virus and get struct by lightening you are counted as a COVID-19 death.
              Quick, tell all the dead people.
              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11296

                #22
                Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                Quick, tell all the dead people.
                he does have a point,

                surely the numbers are manipulated to fit the agenda, or get $$ etc,


                damn shame, but that's what bureaucrats do,

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                • TSimonetti
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 303

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                  Quick, tell all the dead people.
                  His hyperbole aside, I believe he's speaking to the rather liberal way in which deaths are being attributed to Covid-19 in the US, as confirmed by Dr. Birx

                  Not sure if that is the right way to do it, it may be, but when it's all over, I'd sure like to see if other common types of deaths dropped like a rock in numbers during this virus pandemic

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                  • S.A. Boggs
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 8579

                    #24
                    Originally posted by TSimonetti
                    His hyperbole aside, I believe he's speaking to the rather liberal way in which deaths are being attributed to Covid-19 in the US, as confirmed by Dr. Birx

                    Not sure if that is the right way to do it, it may be, but when it's all over, I'd sure like to see if other common types of deaths dropped like a rock in numbers during this virus pandemic
                    Kinda like if it is a dead body it is VC.
                    Sam

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                    • Roadkingtrax
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 7835

                      #25
                      Originally posted by lyman
                      he does have a point,

                      surely the numbers are manipulated to fit the agenda, or get $$ etc,


                      damn shame, but that's what bureaucrats do,
                      Who's agenda? No oversight and trillions of dollars. We'll be fine.

                      To Red's groundbreaking opinion, he should already know life is a terminal condition.

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                      Originally posted by TSimonetti
                      His hyperbole aside, I believe he's speaking to the rather liberal way in which deaths are being attributed to Covid-19 in the US, as confirmed by Dr. Birx

                      Not sure if that is the right way to do it, it may be, but when it's all over, I'd sure like to see if other common types of deaths dropped like a rock in numbers during this virus pandemic
                      Covid-19 affects younger, and older people at a higher rate. That's the concern.

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                      Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                      Kinda like if it is a dead body it is VC.
                      Sam
                      Walter, this isnt about Vietnam.
                      "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                      • S.A. Boggs
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 8579

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                        Who's agenda? No oversight and trillions of dollars. We'll be fine.

                        To Red's groundbreaking opinion, he should already know life is a terminal condition.

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                        Covid-19 affects younger, and older people at a higher rate. That's the concern.

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                        Walter, this isnt about Vietnam.
                        Isn't he sweet!
                        Sam

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                        • Gun Smoke
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2019
                          • 1658

                          #27
                          Originally posted by TSimonetti
                          Americans see the Constitution as our freedom papers. Democrats (and quite a few Republicans) view the Constitution as a great big roadblock with a stop sign. That's why they hate it.
                          That's a very good way of putting it.

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                          • togor
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 17610

                            #28
                            Originally posted by lyman
                            he does have a point,

                            surely the numbers are manipulated to fit the agenda, or get $$ etc,


                            damn shame, but that's what bureaucrats do,
                            What agenda is that?

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                            • lyman
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11296

                              #29
                              Originally posted by togor
                              What agenda is that?
                              pick one, there are several floating around on the net,

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                              • togor
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 17610

                                #30
                                Originally posted by lyman
                                pick one, there are several floating around on the net,
                                Surfing the net doesn't tell me which one you meant by "the agenda".

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