Oh Canada.

[lyman]

The points I made are there for all to see.

The reason for making them isn't advocacy, but rather an understanding of the landscape. So many are unwilling to conceive of a world beyond the tip of their own nose, and consequently it comes as a shock when things happen.

The Canadian, Australian and New Zealand governments for example were pretty up front that point 2) was on their mind. Aussies have a conservative government now yet they haven't gone back.

The US fought a civil war over point 3), and even now there are those who memorialize April 19.

some people see what the commonwealth countries, and others, have, and have done,

and don't what that to happen here, and work to prevent it,


you have advocated in favor of it before, and no matter how you dress it up, still do

[togor]

some people see what the commonwealth countries, and others, have, and have done,

and don't what that to happen here, and work to prevent it,


you have advocated in favor of it before, and no matter how you dress it up, still do

Discussing opposing views is not the same as advocating them. In fact, in business, and sports, taking an unflinching view of what your opponent is trying to do, and why, is considered essential to ongoing success. That's not dressing anything up. But it is true that some people can't or don't want to think that way.

If Virginia starts writing gun legislation, and has votes for some new laws but not others, then someone,

maybe you,

Is going to have to talk to those people, to maybe put a bit more sense into them, not just wave a middle finger at them.

Because they may just wave one right back.

[lyman]

Discussing opposing views is not the same as advocating them. In fact, in business, and sports, taking an unflinching view of what your opponent is trying to do, and why, is considered essential to ongoing success. That's not dressing anything up. But it is true that some people can't or don't want to think that way.

If Virginia starts writing gun legislation, and has votes for some new laws but not others, then someone,

maybe you,

Is going to have to talk to those people, to maybe put a bit more sense into them, not just wave a middle finger at them.

Because they may just wave one right back.

what do you think we in Va have been doing?


you have discussed and proposed restrictions in the past,

your view, your right, but don't expect us to go along and agree,, no need to get all defensive when we call you out,

[togor]

what do you think we in Va have been doing?


you have discussed and proposed restrictions in the past,

your view, your right, but don't expect us to go along and agree,, no need to get all defensive when we call you out,

You still want to read things into the points I make, on the assumption that the only reason that anyone would even look at the other perspective is because they agree with it.

That's a fallacy. Anyone who goes to the statehouse to have a constructive conversation with those people does the same thing I am doing here.

But you won't be happy until you find something, so I will give you something: I have a real problem with the people for whom April 19 is a special day.

[lyman]

You still want to read things into the points I make, on the assumption that the only reason that anyone would even look at the other perspective is because they agree with it.

That's a fallacy. Anyone who goes to the statehouse to have a constructive conversation with those people does the same thing I am doing here.

But you won't be happy until you find something, so I will give you something: I have a real problem with the people for whom April 19 is a special day.

I have read enough of your post to understand how you operate,


not a fallacy,


btw,

the 19th means something to a lot of folks,

some good, some bad, some things happened,, both good and bad, that need to be remembered,

pick one,

http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/april19th.html

[Vern Humphrey]

the 19th means something to a lot of folks,

By the rude bridge that arched the flood
Their flag to April's breeze unfurled
Here once the embattled farmers stood
And fired the shot heard 'round the world.

And he doesn't LIKE the 19th of April? It isn't special to him?

[Marty T.]

He doesn't LIKE anything about this country. He's a foreigner.