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  • S.A. Boggs
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 8569

    #31
    Ask any cancer survivor what they are willing to do to live.

    When I go out of the house I see too many dead men/women walking as it is just a matter of time before the odds catch up to them.
    Sam

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    • clintonhater
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 5220

      #32
      Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
      Ask any cancer survivor what they are willing to do to live.
      So those who aren't cancer survivors should live their lives as if they were?

      Just a matter of time & circumstances before the odds catch up with EVERYBODY; twice, as a matter of fact, I believed they HAD caught up with me, but somehow, "dodged the bullet." Of course they will eventually, but I won't, in the meantime, be one of the flock following the bellwether.

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #33
        Out of curiosity, CH, has a team ever come first for you?

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #34
          Originally posted by clintonhater
          So those who aren't cancer survivors should live their lives as if they were?
          But what if cancer were a virulent highly communicable disease? Would you not take precautions not to catch it?

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          • clintonhater
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 5220

            #35
            Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
            But what if cancer were a virulent highly communicable disease? Would you not take precautions not to catch it?
            Sure, reasonable precautions, if there were any, but I wouldn't allow myself to fall prey to superstition--i.e. mask-mania. For ex., I stopped eating red meat (though my father raised beef cattle & I grew up gorging on it) decades ago, & when I was warned by a MD that I had a predisposition to diabetes, ON THAT DAY I terminated sugar in my diet, though before then I'd been a gluttonous consumer of it; & few yrs later, after reading that starch was converted to sugar by the body, I eliminated most of that, too. Reasonable precautions, like I said.

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            • Vern Humphrey
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 15875

              #36
              Originally posted by clintonhater
              Sure, reasonable precautions, if there were any, but I wouldn't allow myself to fall prey to superstition--i.e. mask-mania. For ex., I stopped eating red meat (though my father raised beef cattle & I grew up gorging on it) decades ago, & when I was warned by a MD that I had a predisposition to diabetes, ON THAT DAY I terminated sugar in my diet, though before then I'd been a gluttonous consumer of it; & few yrs later, after reading that starch was converted to sugar by the body, I eliminated most of that, too. Reasonable precautions, like I said.
              Well, quarantine -- isolation -- is a proven strategy going back a thousand years or more. Wearing protective masks is also reasonable.

              Imagine if the first people diagnosed with AIDS had been quarantined. Failure to do that cost hundreds of thousands of lives.

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              • clintonhater
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 5220

                #37
                Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                Wearing protective masks is also reasonable.
                In SOME places under SOME conditions; for MOST people in MOST places, it makes no sense, except as a superstition that makes the sheep feel better. Thank God Trump continues to have the courage to defy the fear-mongers who continually berate him because he won't surrender to the hysteria.

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                • Vern Humphrey
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 15875

                  #38
                  Originally posted by clintonhater
                  In SOME places under SOME conditions; for MOST people in MOST places, it makes no sense, except as a superstition that makes the sheep feel better. Thank God Trump continues to have the courage to defy the fear-mongers who continually berate him because he won't surrender to the hysteria.
                  But what ARE those "some conditions?" Should a food handler, for example, wear a mask? How about a checkout clerk who comes within a couple of feet of hundreds of people as they check out? How about a person with a cough, a light fever, a little dizziness?

                  The more I look at I see it like carrying a gun -- you have to carry it all the time, because you can't tell when the need will arise.

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                  • clintonhater
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 5220

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                    But what ARE those "some conditions?" Should a food handler, for example, wear a mask? How about a checkout clerk who comes within a couple of feet of hundreds of people as they check out?
                    Now, every checkout around here has had some sort of plastic barrier installed, and OF COURSE the checkers are wearing masks, gloves, & many of them, face shields. How the F much more protection do they need? Hazemat suits? So why would they need protection from ME?

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #40
                      CH if you get it and become contagious before you show symptoms, your homespun mask helps protect the cashier, postal clerk, etc. Presumably you have no desire to give it to anyone else.

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                      • clintonhater
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 5220

                        #41
                        Originally posted by togor
                        Presumably you have no desire to give it to anyone else.
                        Only you.

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                        • m1ashooter
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 3220

                          #42
                          Do any of you guys still work? I do and I'm surround by dumb asses. They think what we are going trough is so horrible. Our company requires us to wear a mask if we want to work. So I wear one because I want to work and have health insurance. I'm 63 and have a blood cancer that can make my day a tad bit hard but I take it it one step at a time. I'm also a manger for this company. Throughout the day I have to tell these people pull your mask up. They answer I'm fat and I can't breath or I can't breath or its too hot. Today we were told that we can only have 6 people in the break room at a time. So these people are complaining about how are they going to take a lunch and one said how am I going to eat my hot meals. I've been eating a sandwich in my car for lunch for weeks because I didn't want to eat with a bunch of people who can't or will not follow social distancing rules. So yes I believe many in the US are soft and having trouble following guidance. I see it every day.
                          Last edited by m1ashooter; 05-12-2020, 07:46.
                          To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC Policy

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                          • S.A. Boggs
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 8569

                            #43
                            I take my wife to work and yesterday she wanted to stop at a store so we did. Before I could say anything she got out of the truck without her mask and went in. When she got back in I read her the riot act in no uncertain terms! I told her that I was not going to let her inadvertently threaten me with death because of being short sighted.
                            Sam

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #44
                              Originally posted by clintonhater
                              Only you.
                              Great outlook you got there.

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                              • Vern Humphrey
                                Administrator - OFC
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 15875

                                #45
                                Originally posted by clintonhater
                                Now, every checkout around here has had some sort of plastic barrier installed, and OF COURSE the checkers are wearing masks, gloves, & many of them, face shields. How the F much more protection do they need? Hazemat suits? So why would they need protection from ME?
                                Because you, or the guy behind you might have COVID 19. The goods being piled on the conveyor may be covered with virus. If you and the guy behind you are MOPPed up, it protects the checker and yourself.

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