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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #1

    The cop was arrested and charged

    The law took it's course and the cop was arrested for his action. It certainly was not any where close to right in what he had done. But he was arrested and charged for it. Normally that would and should end the issue... But it seems like all the rioters just wanted was an excuse to riot, burn, and steal. If he had not gotten charged there might be an excuse for peaceful demonstrations but never what is occurring...Any way just my opinion..and the cop haters are taking advantage of the situation...
  • S.A. Boggs
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 8568

    #2
    Maybe it is time for the President to order the Army in and restore the order. Sometimes it takes a larger force to quell a lesser force and this appears to be the case. If this is the case, as Commander and Chief there is nothing the left can do about it. If this spreads to the suburbs/rural areas it will be meet with those who are armed and want to protect their homes/business...I would.
    Sam

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    • shadycon
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 371

      #3
      I agree. I still remember The Watts riots as I was living in Long Beach at the time. They need to change the rules of engagement. When it comes to a black person breaking the law; White police should just watch and let them finish what they are doing. Tell them to have a nice day and go get a donut and coffee. When a black person calls police for a crime committed by another black person, sorry we are not allowed to try and arrest a black person! Now without "police brutality" They will have to think of a new reason to "riot". It's their mentality.
      M1a1's-R-FUN!!!!!!!

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      • k arga
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 565

        #4
        If the guy hadn't done something wrong in the first place the cops wouldn't have been there to start with.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Minneapolis is a pretty segregated city. The nice areas, by the lakes, have pretty neighborhoods with lots of police around to keep them nice (#3 ranked city in terms of % of budget spent on police). St. Paul does not have so many neighborhoods that demand protection, and consequently has fewer police problems. Are these nice neighborhoods populated with upper-middle-class liberals who pat themselves on the back for sending folks like Ilhan Omar to Congress? You bet your sweet ass they are. Would conservatives in Minnesota be a better option for minorities? Hell no, they have even less use for them! So a lot of what you see in the way of frustration is a sense among the minorities that they are screwed no matter what. Interesting wrinkle in this though is the Somalis--you don't see them on the front lines so much. God knows they have their own problems with the larger community up there, but they also have a sense of cohesion from the old country that helps them get through bad times. Rioting and looting only make things worse. On this everyone agrees.

          k arga a 911 call for someone passing a bad $20 bill seems a little much, especially when the guy has already left the store and poses no threat to anyone. It says something too that the Minneapolis cops were ready to jump on it, with guns drawn. Someone show me the cost-benefit analysis for that kind of police response to a bad $20, even if it doesn't go horribly wrong. It just goes to show that police are operators of the same government bureaucratic mindset that drives us all nuts when dealing with the DMV or some other branch of the government. It was a lack of a sense of proportionate response that has allowed things in Minneapolis to get this far.
          Last edited by togor; 05-31-2020, 05:29.

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          • rayg
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 7444

            #6
            So you are standing/siding with the rioter's yes...
            Last edited by rayg; 05-31-2020, 05:44.

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Originally posted by rayg
              So you are standing/siding with the rioter's yes...
              What part of
              Rioting and looting only make things worse. On this everyone agrees.
              did you not understand?

              Your approach to all of this has been the typical foot-dragging reaction of a government bureaucrat who refuses to acknowledge a problem.

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Put another way, Ray, the manner in which Minneapolis polices itself just blew up in their face, big time. They're going to have to figure something else out going forward. They're by no means dumb so I won't bet against them, but it won't be easy.
                Last edited by togor; 05-31-2020, 06:16.

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                • clintonhater
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 5220

                  #9
                  Originally posted by k arga
                  If the guy hadn't done something wrong in the first place the cops wouldn't have been there to start with.
                  Anybody could pick up a counterfeit bill in money paid to them. Whenever possible I pay in cash & want to be paid in cash for something I'm selling. If he was doing the counterfeiting himself, that's a different story, but nobody knows, or will know now that he's dead, where the bill came from.

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                  • rayg
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 7444

                    #10
                    What problem? he was charged. An isolated incident....Only you are trying to make it bigger then the incident just like the rioters.. A liberal thing I guess.......

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rayg
                      What problem? he was charged. An isolated incident....Only you are trying to make it bigger then the incident just like the rioters.. A liberal thing I guess.......
                      So if George Floyd hadn't died, everything would be just fine in Minneapolis. Again, foot-dragging, not wanting to admit that sometimes the BFH approach to policing only makes this worse. Not every day requires a riot response.

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                      • rayg
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 7444

                        #12
                        Originally posted by togor
                        So if George Floyd hadn't died, everything would be just fine in Minneapolis. Again, foot-dragging, not wanting to admit that sometimes the BFH approach to policing only makes this worse. Not every day requires a riot response.
                        It should have been with any civilized law abiding people but apparently not with the rioters who just took the incident to riot, destroy, and burn...I don't know how you can possibly stick up for them....

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          Ray I don't know how you can possibly say I'm sticking up for riots and looting, when clearly I'm not, except as a deflection for your own unwillingness to admit that cops get too heavy handed in many cities and it breeds discontent. It took a 90 post thread before you were willing to admit that Derek Chauvin blew it. This was not an isolated police incident.

                          Added: and I'm quite willing to point the finger at the fine affluent liberals of Minneapolis for their part in this.
                          Last edited by togor; 05-31-2020, 07:05.

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                          • rayg
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 7444

                            #14
                            [QUOTE=togor;58426
                            It took a 90 post thread before you were willing to admit that Derek Chauvin blew it. This was not an isolated police incident.[/QUOTE]

                            What!!... I said he was wrong and I condemned what he did right away.....Well there you go again saying I said things I never did....You do that all the time and I've called you on it a number of times before....
                            I really have to keep an eye on what you post about what I say...Lol

                            And where was I ever unwilling to admit that cops get too heavy handed in many cities..I never make such a remark..Here we go again...Another one..
                            Last edited by rayg; 05-31-2020, 08:36.

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                            • lyman
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11269

                              #15
                              togor,
                              since you are apparently close to this,


                              any truth to the squabble about Klobuchar not prosecuting police brutality cases when she was there?
                              and supposedly this cop has had many issues in the past that were glossed over?




                              as far as the counterfeit $20, we used to get them all the time in the gro biz, I've even seen counterfeit $1 bills

                              we just waited till we had a handful, (always kept a few in the store to help train the new cashiers) and turn the rest over to corporate, the bank, or the police, (never called them, just waited until one came by for something else and had time)

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