Interesting article about the notion of systemic police racism

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  • rayg
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    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #16
    The article completely ignores the fact that black males who make up only about 6% of the population of the country, commit about 60 % of the crimes in the country. Until that changes, the standing of blacks in the country will not move forward much. No matter how many marches and the frenzy about that police killing. Until those statics change for the better they will always cloud the issue of the blacks being innocent victims and wronged..And I'm sorry that the good and positive hard working and law abiding black people get caught up in it.....But those 6% are the root cause of most of the countries black problems including peoples attitudes toward blacks and has contributed to this country having one of the highest crime rates in the world. Where am am I wrong???
    Last edited by rayg; 06-07-2020, 08:26.

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #17
      It reads like you're asserting racial bias against blacks by police is to be excused on the basis of crime statistics. If true, then that is how we got where we are today. Also that seems the antithesis of professional policing, as surely that excuse shows up nowhere in the training materials.

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      • rayg
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 7444

        #18
        Originally posted by togor
        It reads like you're asserting racial bias against blacks by police is to be excused on the basis of crime statistics.
        Oh please!...Quit twisting what I said like you always do.. I never said it's to be excused. But only maybe a possibly reason that causes it..It's the crime facts, and you can't dispute it, water it down, ignore it, twist it, or hide it ..as much as you try.....

        There have been 292 police officers injured in these incidents so far......just saw that on TV...
        Last edited by rayg; 06-07-2020, 10:50.

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        • togor
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          • Nov 2009
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          #19
          Ray what's the difference here between an "excuse" and a "reason"? Nobody said all cops are racist, but they have biases that are out of sync with the broader population. If you want to argue that this is a good thing, feel free. For my part I believe policing will be most sustainable when it is in harmony with the public being served. And maybe that's the question to ponder....who does a cop serve when he puts on the uniform?

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          • Vern Humphrey
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 15875

            #20
            Originally posted by dryheat
            -If you want to reduce the homicide rate, go into those 5% of counties and fix their problems. -

            Screw them. You can't fix stupid. Keep an eye on them. If they get out of line pounce on them. Of course there will be the occasional death or accidental death. Goes with the territory. And 50M bleeding hearts can march about it. And 10K can loot the opportunity.
            Go down into the inner city and watch the kids loitering, dealing in drugs and so on. If those kids had PHDs in mathematics, engineering and so on, would they be loitering there? The point is, if we could educate them, we'd solve a hell of a lot of problems.
            Last edited by Vern Humphrey; 06-07-2020, 12:05.

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            • togor
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              • Nov 2009
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              #21
              Not necessarily racist, but not professional either: cops in Minnesota slashing tires at the protests.

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11268

                #22
                Originally posted by togor
                Ray what's the difference here between an "excuse" and a "reason"? Nobody said all cops are racist, but they have biases that are out of sync with the broader population. If you want to argue that this is a good thing, feel free. For my part I believe policing will be most sustainable when it is in harmony with the public being served. And maybe that's the question to ponder....who does a cop serve when he puts on the uniform?
                question is, do you think his numbers are wrong?

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                Originally posted by togor
                Not necessarily racist, but not professional either: cops in Minnesota slashing tires at the protests.

                https://mobile.twitter.com/andrewkim...minneapolis%2f
                since they are cops, isn't the city responsible for whatever damage they do in uniform?

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                • rayg
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                  • Aug 2009
                  • 7444

                  #23
                  If the police did it? show some proof and not one poor video, The owners of the cars won't be able to collect from the city without proof..

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