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  • lyman
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11296

    #16
    Originally posted by togor
    I believe a Bob Barr statue already in the pipeline.
    I am sure Shumy and Nans have already posed for one

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    Originally posted by togor
    That thin blue line was caught on video attacking people who were peacefully protesting....excessive violence by the thin blue line. They brought this upon themselves.
    your arms are going to get tired painting everyone with that big broad brush

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #17
      Originally posted by lyman
      your arms are going to get tired painting everyone with that big broad brush
      The thing is, when the entire squad in Buffalo quits, then a broad brush is the right size. They're mad because they say the guys were just following orders. Which is true, they were.

      The complaint about overly broad brushes, and trying to pin the failures on individual LEOs, deflects from the fact that in some places, policy is the problem. The orders, the training, the execution, all of a piece, are what give the result that leads to protests.

      That's what you're missing.

      The suggestion is the system is just fine, and it's misfires by individuals that create the problems. Well, no.

      Red's examples of BS tickets was a problem with the system. The police, prosecutors and courts were doing what they intended to do. But that system was not fine.

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      • Gun Smoke
        Banned
        • Sep 2019
        • 1658

        #18
        If there becomes enough reduction in law enforcement and crime becomes more rampant than it is I feel we'll see more people taking the law into their own hands and not only protect themselves but others.

        This may involve popularizing dormant groups such as the KKK. I wonder if this is really what the democrats want.

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        • lyman
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11296

          #19
          Originally posted by togor
          The thing is, when the entire squad in Buffalo quits, then a broad brush is the right size. They're mad because they say the guys were just following orders. Which is true, they were.

          The complaint about overly broad brushes, and trying to pin the failures on individual LEOs, deflects from the fact that in some places, policy is the problem. The orders, the training, the execution, all of a piece, are what give the result that leads to protests.

          That's what you're missing.

          The suggestion is the system is just fine, and it's misfires by individuals that create the problems. Well, no.

          Red's examples of BS tickets was a problem with the system. The police, prosecutors and courts were doing what they intended to do. But that system was not fine.
          I suggest nothing and I know all is not fine,

          you hear or read something that is not your narrative and then get on the soap box, or get defensive,


          I'm saying, and have said, not all cops are bad,

          militarized too much, yep,

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          • rayg
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 7444

            #20
            Update of my post
            Over 10,000 people have been arrested around the US,
            More than 700 officers injured in George Floyd protests across US as of june 8th

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #21
              Originally posted by lyman
              I suggest nothing and I know all is not fine,

              you hear or read something that is not your narrative and then get on the soap box, or get defensive,


              I'm saying, and have said, not all cops are bad,

              militarized too much, yep,
              No one said all cops are bad, as individuals. But the broad brush can be used to describe the system.

              Thank you for clarifying that all is not fine, in your opinion. There are those out there who cannot bring themselves to admit that.

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              • rayg
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 7444

                #22
                Originally posted by togor
                No one said all cops are bad, as individuals. But the broad brush can be used to describe the system.

                There are those out there who cannot bring themselves to admit that.
                You are the one painting with a broad brush! I would love to see you on the front line facing those looters, rioters and marchers and possibly getting injured doing so. All you do is pick out and high lite isolated negative events and expound on them! I bet if you were on front lines as an officer you would change your liberal attitude real quick... But alas you fire back from the safe trenches far removed from real life......

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                • RED
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11689

                  #23
                  Originally posted by rayg
                  You are the one painting with a broad brush! I would love to see you on the front line facing those looters, rioters and marchers and possibly getting injured doing so. All you do is pick out and high lite isolated negative events and expound on them! I bet if you were on front lines as an officer you would change your liberal attitude real quick... But alas you fire back from the safe trenches far removed from real life......
                  Every cop that is killed, ever business that is burned, every person that dies from the coronavirus is cheered and jeered by the left wing Communists agitators. Togor gets his joys off when America is in turmoil. He thinks this is the greatest moment in the history of mankind because Americans are hurting and finally being punished for ruining the world.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11296

                    #24
                    Originally posted by RED
                    Every cop that is killed, ever business that is burned, every person that dies from the coronavirus is cheered and jeered by the left wing Communists agitators. Togor gets his joys off when America is in turmoil. He thinks this is the greatest moment in the history of mankind because Americans are hurting and finally being punished for ruining the world.
                    there is truth in this statement,

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #25
                      Originally posted by lyman
                      there is truth in this statement,
                      Communism? There's like one branch office left in the USA, according to the internet. Why Red gives a sh*t about them?....just showing his age. They don't matter. As for the part of about me, he's as full of sh*t as ever.

                      So no truth in the statement at all.

                      As for Ray's comment, I think he understands my point now: use a tiny brush to talk about the individual cop, use a big brush to talk about the system of policing.

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11296

                        #26
                        Originally posted by togor
                        Communism? There's like one branch office left in the USA, according to the internet. Why Red gives a sh*t about them?....just showing his age. They don't matter. As for the part of about me, he's as full of sh*t as ever.

                        So no truth in the statement at all.

                        As for Ray's comment, I think he understands my point now: use a tiny brush to talk about the individual cop, use a big brush to talk about the system of policing.
                        comprehension,, , you missed it,


                        Every cop that is killed, ever business that is burned, every person that dies from the coronavirus is cheered and jeered by the left




                        tell me this ain't so,

                        the rest of the comment is a typical RED rant

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #27
                          Originally posted by lyman
                          comprehension,, , you missed it,


                          Every cop that is killed, ever business that is burned, every person that dies from the coronavirus is cheered and jeered by the left




                          tell me this ain't so,

                          the rest of the comment is a typical RED rant
                          Wow,

                          There you are,

                          assuming that people who oppose Trump ("the left")

                          are cheering the death of their family, and friends, to Covid-19.

                          Especially minorities.

                          Just when I thought you had a reasonable streak to you maybe.

                          Your mask slipped.

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                          • Gun Smoke
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2019
                            • 1658

                            #28
                            Originally posted by togor
                            Wow,

                            There you are,

                            assuming that people who oppose Trump ("the left")

                            are cheering the death of their family, and friends, to Covid-19.

                            Especially minorities.

                            Just when I thought you had a reasonable streak to you maybe.

                            Your mask slipped.
                            Open your eyes.

                            THE SHOE FITS !!!

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                              Open your eyes.

                              THE SHOE FITS !!!
                              Sorry bud, the guy who doesn't know what is in the Constitution has no opinion of consequence.

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                              • S.A. Boggs
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 8579

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                                Open your eyes.

                                THE SHOE FITS !!!
                                Togey/RKT will sink our nation just to prove how unjust white America is!
                                Sam

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