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  • clintonhater
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 5220

    #31
    Originally posted by togor
    You would trade 1,000 protestors' lives for one statue of a minor CSA official whose name you would have to look up. It's a rant because your arguments lack any sense of measure or proportion to them.
    Have to look up the name of Jeff Davis??? Well, there's no underestimating the historical ignorance of liberals. The REAL rant is postulating such an absurdity as "1,000 protestors' lives," when the destruction would have been stopped in its tracks by cops merely doing their job & saying "go away, riot elsewhere." The REAL ranter is the one condoning mob violence, & the destruction of public & private property.

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    Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
    Its akin to whining over the removal of a statue celebrating the statesmanship of Saddam Hussein.
    That's your historical perspective? Lee or Davis equates to Saddam? Do you really want to stand by that comparison?

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11269

      #32
      Originally posted by clintonhater
      So revered cultural monuments are NOT being destroyed & vandalized, & history erased? Objecting to such destruction is ranting?
      chatted with a friend and customer today that is an expat, now US citizen,

      his contacts in the UK told him that both Churchill and Queen Vickie monuments were vandilized

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      Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
      Its akin to whining over the removal of a statue celebrating the statesmanship of Saddam Hussein.
      Columbus is equal to Saddam?

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      Originally posted by togor
      In Seattle? Not happening. So why do you want to crush them?

      The rant is to justify crushing all protests everywhere because something happened somewhere that you can point to. You would trade 1,000 protestors' lives for one statue of a minor CSA official whose name you would have to look up. It's a rant because your arguments lack any sense of measure or proportion to them. It's 1840 in your mind and rumor is spreading like wildfire of a slave revolt and you can't understand for the life of you why in the world the sheriff isn't calling out the full constabulary to put this thing down. Only it isn't 1840, and your attitude is way over the edge. That's what makes it a rant.
      is destruction of private, city, or state property a protest or a riot?

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #33
        Lee killed more Americans than Saddam. Look what happened to him?
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #34
          Property damage is a crime. If those who committed it can be found, they can and should be prosecuted. The fact that there was some property damage is being deliberately played up out of proportion to discredit the message of the protests.

          Excessive violence by some cops not reflect on all police. However, some property damage DOES reflect on all protestors.
          Gotta say, Season 4 of The Trump Show is taking things to a new level. The writers saved the best for last!

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11269

            #35
            Originally posted by togor
            Property damage is a crime. If those who committed it can be found, they can and should be prosecuted. The fact that there was some property damage is being deliberately played up out of proportion to discredit the message of the protests.



            Gotta say, Season 4 of The Trump Show is taking things to a new level. The writers saved the best for last!
            funny,

            the folks you don't really care for,


            conservative gun owners (modern MSR types) dressed like operators descend on a state capitol and express dissatisfaction with the State Gov't, who tried to discredit them, called them names, and tried to associate them with those that do hate crimes, racists etc, and they do nothing buy voice an opinion, in a polite way, and leave the place cleaner than the govenors own staff does,, ,


            vs the protesters that you just seem to love,

            tear the fuq out of a city, destroy business' both corporate and small , black owned as well, destroy public property,
            burn buses, police cars , historical artifacts,

            and you are ok with that, they are just excercising free speech, the one or 3 (hundred) folks rioting and looting are not the same group,,,



            and you want folks to listen to your opinions?

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            • Roadkingtrax
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 7835

              #36
              Maybe we'll have statues erected 50 years from now for the current anti-government insurrectionists? I find all this a bit ironic.
              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11269

                #37
                Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                Maybe we'll have statues erected 50 years from now for the current anti-government insurrectionists? I find all this a bit ironic.
                I find it all sad,

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                • Roadkingtrax
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 7835

                  #38
                  Originally posted by lyman
                  I find it all sad,
                  So do I. It's like an explosion of everything bothering everyone...SJW unleashed. Guess I'm on the wrong side of the revolution.
                  "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11269

                    #39
                    revolution is not needed, IMHO,

                    are we perfect?? nope,


                    but what is happening is being orchestrated by others, with an agenda I cannot agree with,


                    change is good, but the destruction is just plain uncalled for,

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                    • Roadkingtrax
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 7835

                      #40
                      In my opinion, any legitimacy was hijacked by the first window broken and the rattle of the paint can.

                      Everything since is an explosion of unclarified anger and frustration against any and all things that someone can be mad about.
                      "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                      • clintonhater
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 5220

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                        Lee killed more Americans than Saddam. Look what happened to him?
                        Grant killed more Americans than Saddam. Look what happened to him?

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                        • Roadkingtrax
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 7835

                          #42
                          Originally posted by clintonhater
                          Grant killed more Americans than Saddam. Look what happened to him?
                          He became President. Pretty cool.
                          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                          • clintonhater
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 5220

                            #43
                            Originally posted by togor
                            Property damage is a crime. If those who committed it can be found, they can and should be prosecuted. The fact that there was some property damage is being deliberately played up out of proportion to discredit the message of the protests.
                            Some property damage! (Says somebody who suffered none.) Glad you mentioned " out of proportion." 3 weeks of rioting, arson, looting, is proportional to the accidental death of a career-criminal who CHOSE to fight back violently against what would have been a routine arrest, such as he had experienced many times previously?

                            What IS the "message" of the protests? "If you are arrested, fight the cops as hard as you can"?

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                            • m1ashooter
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 3220

                              #44
                              Do we have any member from Seattle in the group to give their opinion? I've got a squadron mate there and he says things are FUBAR, my son has shipmates there and they are telling him its like watching a bad end of the world movie. I don't think I'd fare well if I showed up at the Alamo and said its mine now, I'm in charge, just like if some clowns showed up at my house and said your property is mine. This is what has happened in Seattle. Like the old say who died and left you in charge!
                              To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC Policy

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                              • clintonhater
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 5220

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                                He became President. Pretty cool.
                                Pretty sad, if you know anything about the disastrous course of events during his adm.; an honorable, but unwise, man disgraced by trust placed in corrupt associates.

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