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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #16
    Originally posted by Gun Smoke
    So you're stating that ad's the rest of us publish are true even though you don't care for them?

    You submit this one so it's real simply because YOU want it to be.
    The S.S. Truth left these waters long ago, LOL.

    I am pointing out that administration carelessness created the conditions whereby this ad could be made. It sounds plausible. And the administration hasn't explicitly said Ivan didn't do it. What they have done is generate a word fog of plausible deniability to protect Trump from accountability. It's a frequent drill that everyone knows by heart.

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    • bruce
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 3759

      #17
      I keep remembering CBS/Rather and the attempt to derail the election of President Bush ... using what in the end was a batch of clumsy fake documents. That msm hit piece was released at what was judge to be just the right time ... i.e., about impossible for anyone to investigate and find out it was false ... and of course at the same time to engender outrage to swing undecided voters to the demokrats. An anonymous statement published by the times is not worthy of trust. Sincerely. bruce.
      " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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      • Gun Smoke
        Banned
        • Sep 2019
        • 1658

        #18
        Originally posted by bruce
        I keep remembering CBS/Rather and the attempt to derail the election of President Bush ... using what in the end was a batch of clumsy fake documents. That msm hit piece was released at what was judge to be just the right time ... i.e., about impossible for anyone to investigate and find out it was false ... and of course at the same time to engender outrage to swing undecided voters to the demokrats. An anonymous statement published by the times is not worthy of trust. Sincerely. bruce.
        Yes, the democrats really get desperate at times. There should be lengthy jail time for such.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #19
          Trump has settled on the "it didn't happen" defense.

          Would have preferred the "hey that sounds serious and we're going to look into it" defense.

          Gets me wondering...has the base ever NOT had extremely low expectations for the Orange One? Nary an instance comes to mind.

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          • Gun Smoke
            Banned
            • Sep 2019
            • 1658

            #20
            The election is over. You didn't win.

            "The Orange One" ????????? Sounds like a racist remark to me.

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            • S.A. Boggs
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 8568

              #21
              Originally posted by Gun Smoke
              The election is over. You didn't win.

              "The Orange One" ????????? Sounds like a racist remark to me.


              It is RACIST, wonder what our shot caller is going to do about it?
              Sam

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #22
                Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                The election is over. You didn't win.

                "The Orange One" ????????? Sounds like a racist remark to me.
                A couple things.

                It's 2020 so another election is upon us. Talking about 2016 is so 2018.

                Not aware of any people born with Trump's preferred color so really just a sartorial comment, like Prince's trademark purple wardrobe. Some call him The Dreamsickle. That works too. Remember in his case it's a choice.

                I very much doubt we'll get the straight story on the bounties while DJT is in office. But these leaks, and how he reacts to them, do his campaign no good. One can expect more of them as the ship takes on water.

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11266

                  #23
                  Originally posted by togor
                  Trump has settled on the "it didn't happen" defense.

                  Would have preferred the "hey that sounds serious and we're going to look into it" defense.

                  Gets me wondering...has the base ever NOT had extremely low expectations for the Orange One? Nary an instance comes to mind.
                  just remember,

                  he was and will always be better than the alternative

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                  • Gun Smoke
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 1658

                    #24
                    Originally posted by lyman
                    just remember,

                    he was and will always be better than the alternative
                    +1

                    Not the best individual but certainly the best president we'll probably ever see.

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                    • Sandpebble
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 2196

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                      +1

                      Not the best individual but certainly the best president we'll probably ever see.
                      WOW ...after the past three years you can actually say that.... ?

                      Apart from the fact we frightened some Guatemalans away from the border I can't find one thing in my life that has improved over the past three years.

                      As a self employed, relying on no one type of entrepreneur living the epitome of the Conservative mantra of personal responsibility.... these past three years have been extremely non productive.

                      Trump hasn't done chit for me ..... I'd wind the clock back six years in a heart beat..... and I didn't vote Obama either time.

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                      • RED
                        Very Senior Member - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11689

                        #26
                        Originally posted by togor
                        They do!

                        And VWs for the men.

                        Red: the point isn't whether or not YOU like the ad. It goes without saying that you won't. The point is, the ad exists now.

                        Makes me wonder how many more little bombs lay unnoticed in 3 years worth of written PDBs.

                        I can see the October Surprise coming from inside his own administration.
                        You know it is a lie. But the truth is you wouldn't have a positive thought about anything American even if it bit you in the butt. You are an American traitor and everybody here knows it.

                        I remember the Missouri Governor Greitens who was Navy Seal and a hero. He was a fake and I knew it and I told everybody that and campaigned for his opponent but his supporters were idiots, "Oh, he is such a great American and a hero." they said. Look it up and I was right.

                        The guy in your ad is as phony as Greitens was.

                        Then there was Duke Cunningham. Another real hero, and I knew the rotten bastard. He finally was revealed as a liar and a tax cheat. You have your head up your wasszoo so far you wouldn't criticize a Socialist/Communist if he walked in and killed your family.

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                        • Gun Smoke
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2019
                          • 1658

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Sandpebble
                          WOW ...after the past three years you can actually say that.... ?

                          Apart from the fact we frightened some Guatemalans away from the border I can't find one thing in my life that has improved over the past three years.

                          As a self employed, relying on no one type of entrepreneur living the epitome of the Conservative mantra of personal responsibility.... these past three years have been extremely non productive.

                          Trump hasn't done chit for me ..... I'd wind the clock back six years in a heart beat..... and I didn't vote Obama either time.
                          Soooooooo, who was better ???

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                          • Sandpebble
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 2196

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                            Soooooooo, who was better ???
                            If I stuttered I'll repeat for you .... I'd wind the clock back six years in a heart beat

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                            • RED
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11689

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Sandpebble
                              If I stuttered I'll repeat for you .... I'd wind the clock back six years in a heart beat
                              Totally ridiculous statement. USA was much, much, better 6 months ago than it was 6 years ago. And no, Trump didn't infect the world with the Kung Flu. Had the Democrats won in 2016, the U.S. would right now be a police state under martial law with people being executed if they didn't follow orders and stay in their homes.

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                              • Sandpebble
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 2196

                                #30
                                Originally posted by RED
                                Totally ridiculous statement. USA was much, much, better 6 months ago than it was 6 years ago. And no, Trump didn't infect the world with the Kung Flu. Had the Democrats won in 2016, the U.S. would right now be a police state under martial law with people being executed if they didn't follow orders and stay in their homes.
                                Really ?.... gee, I didn't know that .... I better start reading the Daily Mail or something ...

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