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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #31
    I never said I liked everything Trump says...but I like what he has done for the country and all the Dem's do is complaint about him but they have done absolutely nothing to enhance the country..

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #32
      In other words, you like how he makes you feel, non-specific of any weighing of his accomplishments against his failures.

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      • rayg
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 7444

        #33
        Originally posted by togor
        In other words, you like how he makes you feel, non-specific of any weighing of his accomplishments against his failures.
        No, I said I like what he has done for the country!...And as I said the all the Dem's do is complaint about him but they have done absolutely nothing to enhance the country..

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        • mr.j
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 141

          #34
          [QUOTE=rayg;593998]The article said it was a domestic call...It appears the cops over reacted however it never would have happened if he would have just obeyed the order to stop

          the question is when black people are shot by police are they thinking in their head 'hey man now i get to shoot a black person, which i doubt. Could the police seen something cameras didint?
          there was also kids in car, how did police know they were his kids as it did not seem like he wanted to talk with police. Why riot when no facts are out and why make it a racial issue is the big question.

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          • Vern Humphrey
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 15875

            #35
            [QUOTE=mr.j;594134]
            Originally posted by rayg
            The article said it was a domestic call...It appears the cops over reacted however it never would have happened if he would have just obeyed the order to stop

            the question is when black people are shot by police are they thinking in their head 'hey man now i get to shoot a black person, which i doubt. Could the police seen something cameras didint?
            there was also kids in car, how did police know they were his kids as it did not seem like he wanted to talk with police. Why riot when no facts are out and why make it a racial issue is the big question.
            "Actions are judged by their outcomes."
            -- William James

            In this case, the outcome has already been very bad. We are all going to suffer.

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            • S.A. Boggs
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 8569

              #36
              [QUOTE=Vern Humphrey;594138]
              Originally posted by mr.j

              "Actions are judged by their outcomes."
              -- William James

              In this case, the outcome has already been very bad. We are all going to suffer.
              How much you want to bet that in the coming day's Togey will jump and down with a I told you so! The more America burns the more Togey cheers!
              Sam

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              • Vern Humphrey
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 15875

                #37
                [QUOTE=S.A. Boggs;594149]
                Originally posted by Vern Humphrey

                How much you want to bet that in the coming day's Togey will jump and down with a I told you so! The more America burns the more Togey cheers!
                Sam
                Oh, yeah. He's one of those Hate America junkies.

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #38
                  Actually no, Mr. B. I dislike chaos. This is why I'm so adamantly opposed to a Chaos President. I mean, what did people expect was going to happen when he spends 3 years sowing public mistrust of every institution of government, including law enforcement????? Then the pandemic hits and he takes no responsibility. Why is this criticism of Trump so hard to get? How could it be anything BUT this??????

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                  • S.A. Boggs
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 8569

                    #39
                    Psychiatric hospital's are interesting places to visit, to talk with the patients as they try to recover from their mental illness. Listening to a certain individual from the other side and I feel the same as I did then with the patients. Watch a client bend down and argue with the devil or talk to one of the voices that inhibit their lives. One word that could rarely be applied to them is sane.
                    Sam

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                    • Mark in Ottawa
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1744

                      #40
                      Police have a number of options that they can use in any given situation. These range from discussion with the individual at one end of the spectrum to the use of non-lethal weapons (pepper spray, tasers) to the use of non-weapon physical interaction, to billy clubs and finally to firearms. There is nothing in the video to suggest that the use of firearms was warranted and even if it was, the fact that the police shot the man 7 times in the back suggest that their intention was to kill him rather than to "stop" him. People have reported that the police yelled at him to "drop the knife" but since he apparently did not have a knife, one might conclude that this was just yelled out to justify the use of deadly force.

                      Unless they find a machine gun in the car, I think that the shooter or shooters are going to end up being charged with attempted murder and I will predict that the police chief will either quit or be fired in the next few days since it is pretty obvious that his officers have not been properly trained in de-escalation

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                      • clintonhater
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 5220

                        #41
                        Originally posted by togor
                        Then the pandemic hits and he takes no responsibility.
                        A vicious lie--he stopped travel from China (for which Dems called him a racist, their favorite attack mode, used against some conservative every single day), & wanted to stop travel from NYS, but was prevented by Dems who refused to anger their own base.

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                        • S.A. Boggs
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 8569

                          #42
                          Many are jumping to conclusions to what happened and offering many opinions...we weren't there. 7 rds is excessive??? I wasn't there. What was in the officer's minds? I wasn't there. "Drop the knife!" I am only seeing one angle, I wasn't there.
                          15 years ago I was suspended for abusing a client by striking the back of his head. A "coworker" saw this filed a report and I was suspended for ten long days. Criminal charges could have been filed and I could have been arrested. After 10 days I was called in and told to come back to work to be "trained" in Appalachian Culture. I brushed a fly off of the back of my client's head and this was my crime of abuse.
                          I want to see the complete investigation as to what really happened and let the local authorities handle this. Those who jump to conclusions will fall on their face!
                          Sam

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                          • togor
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 17610

                            #43
                            Originally posted by clintonhater
                            A vicious lie--he stopped travel from China (for which Dems called him a racist, their favorite attack mode, used against some conservative every single day), & wanted to stop travel from NYS, but was prevented by Dems who refused to anger their own base.
                            Fish in a barrel. At the 0:43 mark. You can find that quote easily in context anywhere on the web. Trump controls CBP. If he could ban flights from China he could ban them from Europe on the same legal authority, but he didn't. Part of the pathology is that you blame the opposition for everything that goes wrong. The buck never stops at Trump.

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                            • lyman
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11270

                              #44
                              lincoln project,,

                              kinda a biased source,,,,


                              granted Pelosi was trying to ban presidents from making travel bans,


                              House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D) promoted tourism to San Franciso, California’s Chinatown and was moving forward with legislation to prevent presidents from issuing travel bans while President Trump implemented a travel ban from China to stop the spread of the Chinese coronavirus.
                              however it seems Nanz was talking about a previous ban





                              or maybe not,
                              https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...s-great-moment

                              Speaker Pelosi on Trump's China travel restriction: "Tens of thousands of people were still allowed in from China. It wasn't as it is described as this great moment. ... If you're going to shut the door because you have an evaluation of an epidemic, then shut the door"
                              yet Biden is ok with it,

                              CNN’s Jake Tapper noted that presumptive Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s campaign said earlier this month he supported the ban.

                              and in March,, Nanz's bill again


                              House Republican leaders are calling on Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to pull a bill that would rescind President Trump’s controversial travel ban, arguing it could hinder the administration’s ability to limit the number of individuals entering the U.S. from countries that have faced widespread outbreaks of coronavirus.


                              then we have this



                              this

                              which Biden supported

                              Nancy Pelosi complained Sunday that the Trump administration's China travel ban should have barred U.S. citizens from returning home.


                              “Vice President Joe Biden’s campaign told me earlier this month that he supported President Trump’s partial travel restrictions on January 31st blocking foreign nationals from China from coming to the United States. Do you agree that it was the right move by President Trump at the time?” asked Jake Tapper on CNN’s “State of the Union.”



                              so keep on blaming Trump, since he is the president,

                              but you also need to wake up (as in go woke?) and see that others on the D side feel the same, and some D's were/are fighting it,


                              this took maybe 5 minutes to find

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