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  • dryheat
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 10587

    #16
    I've never under stood the description of drug use as a disease. Trees get disease. You can get a disease from ahh..China. But how is going down to the hood and purchasing meth a disease?
    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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    • clintonhater
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 5220

      #17
      Originally posted by Mark in Ottawa
      It only became apparent near the end of her long speech that the fellow did not die from the police action; he died from an over-dose of drugs.
      A win for society--one less social parasite for responsible people to support. Who loses? Drug dealers.

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      • clintonhater
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 5220

        #18
        Originally posted by togor
        In white Appalachia pill use is rampant, and there even conservatives describe addiction as a disease, not a criminal status.
        Then they're pandering to the drug-abusers for political gain. Drug-abuse is a CHOICE! Unless you're talking about someone forcible injected until they did become addicted.

        Make excuses for bad behavior, & it's GUARANTEED there will be more of it!

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #19
          Originally posted by dryheat
          I've never under stood the description of drug use as a disease. Trees get disease. You can get a disease from ahh..China. But how is going down to the hood and purchasing meth a disease?
          The brain gets rewired by the drugs. Free will, which some say is illusory in the best of us, goes by the wayside. Lots of descriptions on the web.

          https://www.michaelshouse.com/opiate...ain-chemistry/

          Right or wrong organic changes in the brain from drugs are considered a manifestation of disease, sometimes treatable with medication, like other diseases of the brain.

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          • clintonhater
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 5220

            #20
            Originally posted by togor
            Free will, which some say is illusory in the best of us, goes by the wayside.
            You mean they didn't even have free will BEFORE they became addicted? Drug abuse ALWAYS begins because THEY ENJOY IT. Take enough & addiction may follow, but in the beginning it's entirely VOLUNTARY, an exercise of FREE CHOICE.

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #21
              Originally posted by clintonhater
              You mean they didn't even have free will BEFORE they became addicted? Drug abuse ALWAYS begins because THEY ENJOY IT. Take enough & addiction may follow, but in the beginning it's entirely VOLUNTARY, an exercise of FREE CHOICE.
              You could shoot up and then kick the habit and report, being so confident of how it goes for addicts.

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              • Gun Smoke
                Banned
                • Sep 2019
                • 1658

                #22
                With all the fuss over Pelosi not wearing a mask, proving once again what a hypocrite she is, the spit hood should have been put on her.

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                • clintonhater
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 5220

                  #23
                  Originally posted by togor
                  You could shoot up and then kick the habit and report, being so confident of how it goes for addicts.
                  Who would shoot up the first time who wasn't looking for a thrill? And nobody becomes addicted shooting up once! They keep doing it because they LOVE the effect, & are too irresponsible to worry about the consequences. THESE are the poor victims of a "disease" we should pity? Togor has an excuse for EVERY bad behavior--the reason so many blacks fight the cops like out-of-control animals is because they're "afraid" of them.

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                  • dryheat
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10587

                    #24
                    -The brain gets rewired by the drugs.- Then don't try drugs.
                    I watched one of those fifties scary 8mm movies about addiction in grade school. I got the message. We can't come up with anything like that today? NO; because everything is OK today. Hammering folks doing drugs is racist, or at the least, not nice. Lord knows, we have to be nice. Maybe if the crack heads in Chitown got together with the boys out there on the lower platte, doing meth,they'd find they had something in common. It's a start. I swear to God the democrats or whoever will figure out a way to make this happen. Can you say busing? Unless the Trump legacy rolls on. Post Trump even.
                    Last edited by dryheat; 09-03-2020, 11:22. Reason: That's it.
                    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #25
                      People who don't want drugs flooding their neighborhoods point out that outside forces bring it in. People prey on the poor, here smoke this rock, or Purdue Pharma pushes Oxy like crazy after falsely telling people it's non addictive. Chinese labs making dirt cheap fentanyl.

                      Is everyone hooked on nicotine or alcohol a scumbucket?

                      Getting people physically addicted on stuff is highly lucrative, the rewards so great, that underhanded methods are used.

                      And then there's this morals aspect. Getting hooked is somehow a morals failing (echo of Puritan days) but being in the supply business is just being a clever capitalist.

                      FWIW I'm not a big fan of legal weed. Someone told me it has been a boost for Colorado tax revenue, haven't checked if that's true. Don't see it as a good enough reason to legalize.

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                      • clintonhater
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 5220

                        #26
                        Originally posted by togor
                        Getting hooked is somehow a morals failing (echo of Puritan days) but being in the supply business is just being a clever capitalist.
                        OF COURSE it's a morals failing! Stupid as most users undoubtedly are, are they TOO stupid to know the stuff they're buying is illegal? Is Purdue getting away with their "cleverness"?

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                        • Roadkingtrax
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 7835

                          #27
                          If you drink coffee everyday, than you are aware of the same challenges a drug user has, albeit on a smaller physiological scale.
                          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                          • clintonhater
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 5220

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                            If you drink coffee everyday, than you are aware of the same challenges a drug user has, albeit on a smaller physiological scale.
                            Ridiculous. For 3 mos I took heavy doses of Oxycontin after a bad leg injury (that still causes me a slight limp)--dosage it would be impossible to be prescribed now, thanks to the hysteria brought about by the criminal abusers Togor defends. I had already been restricting the amount I was taking, due to the constipation it causes, long before my last prescription ran out, & even after it ran out I still had half a bottle left that I never used.

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                            • Vern Humphrey
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 15875

                              #29
                              Originally posted by clintonhater
                              Ridiculous. For 3 mos I took heavy doses of Oxycontin after a bad leg injury (that still causes me a slight limp)--dosage it would be impossible to be prescribed now, thanks to the hysteria brought about by the criminal abusers Togor defends. I had already been restricting the amount I was taking, due to the constipation it causes, long before my last prescription ran out, & even after it ran out I still had half a bottle left that I never used.
                              The Army used morphine and similar drugs for pain in Viet Nam. I threw mine away -- I'd rather live with the pain than chance addiction.

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