Stars go naked to bring out the votes..

[M1Tommy]

A couple of points:

Draftees are about as useful as horses to the military these days. They just clog the supply lines in any deployment, barely contribute to the mission.

You want current/alumni Federal employees exclusively to be voters? I cannot imagine a more obvious fox-guarding-the-henhouse scenario, can you?
...... snippage of unrelated ........

Your reply seems to indicate you did not read my post.

To answer the question, yes, involving more and more uninformed people in voting, particularly those who have no vested interest, no real "skin in the game" of keeping the country healthy, i.e. a rule of the easily swayed mob of masses, would be more obvious. This, is exactly what the leftists wish. Simply, it is all about their desire for control, and their perceived means of acquiring it. This has been shown often the past few decades, has become their shrill demands recently.
I will post no more, on this thread. It serves no useful purpose for the mature citizenry.
Sincerely, Tommy

[Vern Humphrey]

Sir (assumed), I have no dog in that.
I would offer that, if one serves in the military or other federal service (to be determined AFTER volunteering), then one earns full citizenship which includes the vote. Otherwise, one can live as a full 'resident', own businesses, etc., just not vote.
A good day, to you.
Tommy

Typical liberal lateral arabesque -- equating Social Security with Welfare. Social Security is bought and paid for -- it's old age insurance. Those drawing it paid into it for many years and are really only drawing a fraction of what their payments would being if properly invested.

Is it any wonder so many of us have the Three Stooges on "Ignore?"

[Roadkingtrax]

Typical liberal lateral arabesque -- equating Social Security with Welfare. Social Security is bought and paid for -- it's old age insurance. Those drawing it paid into it for many years and are really only drawing a fraction of what their payments would being if properly invested.

Is it any wonder so many of us have the Three Stooges on "Ignore?"

So why does the GOP want to kill it, in particular Trump and McConnell? Its a social program, we all pay taxes, and for that we get another golf trip in Florida.

"One of Social Security's many strengths is that its benefits are guaranteed and, unlike savings, cannot be outlived. Republican politicians have a longstanding goal to convert Social Security's wage insurance into inadequate savings accounts that would force workers to pay enormous "management fees" to Wall Street. They tried directly in 2005, but the American people overwhelmingly rejected their plan. With these current proposals, they are seeking to seed the ground to make their plan more acceptable."

[lyman]

Sir (assumed), I have no dog in that.
I would offer that, if one serves in the military or other federal service (to be determined AFTER volunteering), then one earns full citizenship which includes the vote. Otherwise, one can live as a full 'resident', own businesses, etc., just not vote.
A good day, to you.
Tommy

so you liked Starship Troopers,,,,,


hopefully the book much more that that horrible adaptation,,

anyhoo,

the constitution says We the People


regardless of what we do for a living

[M1Tommy]

so you liked Starship Troopers,,,,,
hopefully the book much more that that horrible adaptation,,
anyhoo, the constitution says We the People
regardless of what we do for a living

Sir, Yes, I first read it as a lad, and have worn out more than one copy of the book.
That movie was an abomination, an intentional slander of the novel's intended messages by the director Paul Verhoeven. Even if it bore a different title, it would have been a bad B-movie at best. I was more entertained by "Night of the Lepus". I believe the novel should be required reading for all children ages 13 and up.

You are correct about the preamble's wording. That is the preamble, not the Constitution proper; however, your point is a good one.
Tommy

[Vern Humphrey]

Sir, Yes, I first read it as a lad, and have worn out more than one copy of the book.
That movie was an abomination, an intentional slander of the novel's intended messages by the director Paul Verhoeven. Even if it bore a different title, it would have been a bad B-movie at best. I was more entertained by "Night of the Lepus". I believe the novel should be required reading for all children ages 13 and up.

You are correct about the preamble's wording. That is the preamble, not the Constitution proper; however, your point is a good one.
Tommy

But nowhere does it say, "Everyone who can sneak in is automatically a citizen." Citizenship should be EARNED.

[lyman]

Sir, Yes, I first read it as a lad, and have worn out more than one copy of the book.
That movie was an abomination, an intentional slander of the novel's intended messages by the director Paul Verhoeven. Even if it bore a different title, it would have been a bad B-movie at best. I was more entertained by "Night of the Lepus". I believe the novel should be required reading for all children ages 13 and up.

You are correct about the preamble's wording. That is the preamble, not the Constitution proper; however, your point is a good one.
Tommy

agree on the required reading,

I read most of Heinlein's , Asimov's, Niven's and some of Herbert's whilst in school,


speaking of which, Apple is doing a miniseries of Foundation, that hopefully will be good,
and a 3rd movie (Well technically 2nd, since one was a miniseries) of Dune is in the works,

[Vern Humphrey]

I always liked Piper's A Planet for Texans.

[Sandpebble]

Nudes....? our own First lady got her visa ...an the EB-1 .... for being exceptional at her profession.

she was nude model.

Lets toss out all the orange and tomato pickers because by Christ ....we sure could use a few more nude models

[Gun Smoke]

If she ever posed in the nude it sure wasn't for desperate democrat votes.

[Roadkingtrax]

If she ever posed in the nude it sure wasn't for desperate democrat votes.

Trump voted Democrat at the time though?

[Gun Smoke]

Trump voted Democrat at the time though?

May have. Many that use to be dems have switched over.

[togor]

May have. Many that use to be dems have switched over.

After the Democrats embraced civil rights.

[Gun Smoke]

After the Democrats embraced civil rights.

No, it's when they became anti-American a$$es.

[Roadkingtrax]

No, it's when they became anti-American a$$es.

He's right. The Dixiecrats broke away and took their mythology with them.