Denver Shooting

[togor]

The cops don't do anything even when confronted by physical violence, and what may or might happen is no excuse for killing someone, at least in the United States.

What does that even mean? There are a lot of police shootings judged to be non-prosecutable every year. Killings that are in fact excused. You're saying that people are wrong to see this as a problem?

[lyman]

Apple flavored v. orange flavored tyranny?

Never heard that one before.

not surprised,

[togor]

not surprised,

This is where I invite you to explain how these two flavors of tyranny are different and where you decline.

[lyman]

you mean about how democrat governors are shutting down states (and economies) for an agenda that has nothing to do with actually stopping the Plandemic? (not a typo)
the one that CDC and WHO can't seem to make their collective mind up on what to do on any given day?

or how wearing a mask will save the world, and in some cases, if you open a business or don't wear a mask you are prosecuted, but in those same areas you can march all day and night , loot and burn, but because that marching and pilaging is for a just cause it is ok?


so the tyranny of being told to wear a mask and social distance or else?

or the tyranny of those same folks saying marching, protesting, riots and peacefully burning buildings is OK,, cause a guy died (OD'ed) with a cop on him?


open your eyes, look at both sides, and maybe then you will get it,

[togor]

you mean about how democrat governors are shutting down states (and economies) for an agenda that has nothing to do with actually stopping the Plandemic? (not a typo)
the one that CDC and WHO can't seem to make their collective mind up on what to do on any given day?

or how wearing a mask will save the world, and in some cases, if you open a business or don't wear a mask you are prosecuted, but in those same areas you can march all day and night , loot and burn, but because that marching and pilaging is for a just cause it is ok?


so the tyranny of being told to wear a mask and social distance or else?

or the tyranny of those same folks saying marching, protesting, riots and peacefully burning buildings is OK,, cause a guy died (OD'ed) with a cop on him?


open your eyes, look at both sides, and maybe then you will get it,

Twisting!!!!!

Away from protests of police brutality and onto civil disorder, as though the one thing is exactly the other.

I have heard Biden say property destruction is wrong. Repeatedly.

I have not heard Trump, or you, or anyone say that people protesting excessive police violence (which any measure ought to be seen as a form of tyranny) is a valid civic exercise.

Which I suppose is a way of getting across the message that you oppose tyranny, except when you support it.

But since you won't make the direct comparison between the objects of protests (masks and police killings) I will: one seems a good bit more severe than the other.

As for justification: people are asked to wear masks because some people can spread covid without realizing it and masks in public areas reduce the amount of virus in the air. So for the "gimme a good reason!" people that's the reason. People are asked to comply out of some sense of civic responsibility and all you claim to hear is a "....or else...!" which is ludicrous.

Meanwhile, excessive police violence and targeting of minorities is good because....why? And if you listen to what they are telling us, the violence isn't even the #1 factor, it's the low-grade hassling. Say you lose a taillight bulb, could happen to anyone at any time. The cop pulls you over. He could just say "hey bad bulb" but no, it turns into a whole "papers please" thing. And once they have you stopped, you're at their mercy. Hmmm....is that a hint of stale weed? It's something that many of us have no expectation of having to deal with, going from minding our own business and not hurting anyone to the cops looking for a reason to bring you in, even creating one if necessary.

The point being, if other groups had to put up with that, their tune would change in a hurry. But they don't, so it doesn't and to them BLM is conveniently seen as riots and looting and nothing else.

Every once in awhile however some of it does slosh the other way. Take this account from Wauwatosa, where some right wing reporters were treated no differently than any other "enemies of the people". Their reaction is identical to any the most pro-BLM reporter could ever give.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/08/d...nsin-protests/

[lyman]

triggered, you are,


and that brush is broad again,


you suppose and assume way to much , way to much,

so,

I have not heard Trump, or you, or anyone say that people protesting excessive police violence (which any measure ought to be seen as a form of tyranny) is a valid civic exercise.

Which I suppose is a way of getting across the message that you oppose tyranny, except when you support it.

then you have not been reading every post,

no one , including me, says a peaceful protest it wrong, in fact it is part of what we in the USA do,

lots, including me, (but no so much you??) have asked what does burning a building, taking over areas, threatening and beating people have to do with protests?
basically you take CNN's definition of Peaceful,, most of us do not,



and,

Meanwhile, excessive police violence and targeting of minorities is good because....why? And if you listen to what they are telling us, the violence isn't even the #1 factor, it's the low-grade hassling. Say you lose a taillight bulb, could happen to anyone at any time. The cop pulls you over. He could just say "hey bad bulb" but no, it turns into a whole "papers please" thing. And once they have you stopped, you're at their mercy. Hmmm....is that a hint of stale weed? It's something that many of us have no expectation of having to deal with, going from minding our own business and not hurting anyone to the cops looking for a reason to bring you in, even creating one if necessary.

really simple, but you don't get it,

don't do the crime if you don't wanna do the time, it truly is a thing,

and no one is saying, (not even rayg) that there are not bad cops, (newsflash,, of every color)

BTW, where was outrage when the cop killed the white woman in the alley years ago???

[Vern Humphrey]

Indeed, everyone here has condemned excessive police violence -- but only the Three Stooges have used occasional excesses to justify widespread violence, burning and looting.

[JWM]

What group is that? Gang-bangers, dope-heads, rioters, arsonists? Don't pick fights with cops, or defy their orders, & you can escape the tyranny.

That's it in a nutshell, Steve. They are the same type of scum as the John Brown type activists that took charge of American politicians, primarily Lincoln the decision maker, that resulted in the War Between the States...that Rich Man's War and a Poor Man's Fight...not a whole lot has changed where their kind is concerned, or the way the biggest percentage of modern day wars go for that matter.

James