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  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #16
    Originally posted by lyman
    I use a mitt, not a glove, and will reverse the hand in offhand,

    it's a bit more steady than gripping,
    You guys must have limber wrists. The thumb on the left has always felt more natural, 1903 to AR. On an 03, I cover the forward stock bolt head as a point consistent support.

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    Originally posted by lyman
    I use a mitt, not a glove, and will reverse the hand in offhand,

    it's a bit more steady than gripping,

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    yep,

    you generally cannot buy points,

    save the money on the doo dads and gizmo's and spend it on ammo and range time,,,


    I am still amazed folks spend money for a 2 shot clip,,
    I got one free and have been using it for 10 years. Don't hate me. Now M1 SLEDs...those are silly.
    Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 10-25-2020, 02:19.
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • dryheat
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 10587

      #17
      I inherited a couple boxes of someones reloads. 168 grain bullets. W.R.A. 42 brass. They were so accurate that I won't fire the last five.
      If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11269

        #18
        Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
        You guys must have limber wrists. The thumb on the left has always felt more natural, 1903 to AR. On an 03, I cover the forward stock bolt head as a point consistent support.

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        I got one free and have been using it for 10 years. Don't hate me. Now M1 SLEDs...those are silly.
        free is free,

        I was taught by an old HP guy how to load 2 with a standard 8 round clip,



        re the wrist and mitt, it just works for me,

        I wear a glove for the AR and 1903
        grab the mag well on the AR for offhand,
        if I do the same for the Garand, I tend to touch the op rod, ,

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #19
          Originally posted by lyman
          free is free,

          I was taught by an old HP guy how to load 2 with a standard 8 round clip,



          re the wrist and mitt, it just works for me,

          I wear a glove for the AR and 1903
          grab the mag well on the AR for offhand,
          if I do the same for the Garand, I tend to touch the op rod, ,
          That's why you reverse your hand -- right thumb on the right side of the stock, fingers on the left.

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #20
            Garand is a good southpaw rifle, easy to steer clear of the op rod, the reach-over to reload isn't so bad.

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #21
              Hey changing caliber has anyone shot M118LR? I picked up a can when the CMP was selling some (XM..., cartons, but matching sublot per can). Have not tried it out yet.

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11269

                #22
                Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                That's why you reverse your hand -- right thumb on the right side of the stock, fingers on the left.
                I must be missing something here,

                I am right handed,

                right hand on the wrist, thumb over or up out the way,

                left hand up, wrist or hand bent back left thumb on right side of the rifle, left finger to the left,


                squeeze it good (right hand)with right elbow up, (I drop the elbow for the AR)




                re the M118LR,, no, have not shot,

                I run M118 and Special Ball thru the M14, or just standard ball,

                have not shot comps with it but maybe once or twice

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                • Roadkingtrax
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 7835

                  #23
                  Watch M118LR, I thought some of the newer lots were more bolt rifle speeds vs. M14 velocity.
                  "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                  • dryheat
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10587

                    #24
                    Garand is a good southpaw rifle- Maybe not a good southpaw rifle.
                    - easy to steer clear of the op rod, the reach-over to reload isn't so bad.-
                    Me-. Having fired a few thousand rds.through the Garand. I don't know what this means, you can't post on everything.
                    I do an overreach when shooting bolt actions off the bench. You don't want to alter your position, so you use your left hand to reach over the bolt to work the action. It looks cool, I think it helps.
                    Per,the young actor in SPR(dang, that's been numerous years).Barry Pepper- who did a good job in the remake of True Grit. And did a good job in SPR as the sniper. look for the over-reach. Course, I don't remember that he won the battle. The P-51's closed out the scene.
                    Last edited by dryheat; 10-26-2020, 12:21.
                    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                    • Vern Humphrey
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 15875

                      #25
                      Originally posted by lyman
                      I must be missing something here,

                      I am right handed,

                      right hand on the wrist, thumb over or up out the way,

                      left hand up, wrist or hand bent back left thumb on right side of the rifle, left finger to the left,


                      squeeze it good (right hand)with right elbow up, (I drop the elbow for the AR)




                      re the M118LR,, no, have not shot,

                      I run M118 and Special Ball thru the M14, or just standard ball,

                      have not shot comps with it but maybe once or twice
                      If you hold the Garand in the "Normal" way, but at the balance point, the operating rod handle will hit your fingers. Reverse your hand, and the op rod will pass over your thumb. This allows you to hold the rifle with your left arm vertical (as it should be).

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11269

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                        If you hold the Garand in the "Normal" way, but at the balance point, the operating rod handle will hit your fingers. Reverse your hand, and the op rod will pass over your thumb. This allows you to hold the rifle with your left arm vertical (as it should be).
                        wasn't following what you originally described, unless you are a lefty

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                        • Vern Humphrey
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 15875

                          #27
                          Originally posted by lyman
                          wasn't following what you originally described, unless you are a lefty
                          A right handed man holds the forearm of a rifle with his LEFT hand, does he not? He usually makes a fork of his left hand and basically rests the forearm between thumb and palm.

                          The best way to hold the rifle for offhand shooting is to hold it at the balance of the pece (right in front of the trigger guard) with your left forearm vertical.

                          If you do that with a Garand, the fingers of your left hand will be on the right side of the stock, in the path of the operating rod handle. So the proper hold is to reverse your left hand, thumb on the right side of the stock and fingers on the left.

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