Police have released video of a fatal shooting from a traffic stop

[rayg]

Ray, Ferguson MO wasn't that long ago.

What does Ferguson MO have to do with any thing Red or I said?

[lyman]

RED was LEO?

he didn't list that on the resume he sent me,



I think togor was referring to some events RED had posted where there are towns in his area that like to ticket you for going 1mph over the limit to get $$$ for the city or county or sheriff,,,,

[rayg]

Ray, Ferguson MO wasn't that long ago.

What does Ferguson MO have to do with any thing Red or I said?

The County prosecutor said the most credible witnesses reported that Mr. Brown charged toward the officer.
Has nothing to do with what I said about policing and you know it!

[rayg]

RED was LEO?

he didn't list that on the resume he sent me,



I think togor was referring to some events RED had posted where there are towns in his area that like to ticket you for going 1mph over the limit to get $$$ for the city or county or sheriff,,,,

No he was driving truck then and had some bad experience with small town officers...

[Mark in Ottawa]

I am reminded of a conversation that I had some years ago with a colleague at the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. (He was a uniformed member and I was a civilian). He pointed out that almost all incidents involving firearms take place in about 10 seconds and are at very short range. The police officer is under stress and at risk and has but a few seconds to analyze the situation, decide whether to pull his firearm (Canadian police are not supposed to unholster their firearm unless there is a likelihood that it will be used) and then decide if its necessary to shoot. Afterwards a group of people who were not there, were not under stress and were not in fear of being shot, will spend days determining if the police officer made the correct decision. He finished up by saying that in the end, he would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. I should add that this particular corporal was one of the most calm, solid and professional people that I ever worked with in my 42 year career with the Government.

[Vern Humphrey]

I am reminded of a conversation that I had some years ago with a colleague at the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. (He was a uniformed member and I was a civilian). He pointed out that almost all incidents involving firearms take place in about 10 seconds and are at very short range. The police officer is under stress and at risk and has but a few seconds to analyze the situation, decide whether to pull his firearm (Canadian police are not supposed to unholster their firearm unless there is a likelihood that it will be used) and then decide if its necessary to shoot. Afterwards a group of people who were not there, were not under stress and were not in fear of being shot, will spend days determining if the police officer made the correct decision. He finished up by saying that in the end, he would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. I should add that this particular corporal was one of the most calm, solid and professional people that I ever worked with in my 42 year career with the Government.

Ten seconds seems WAY too long for most armed encounters. For example, the Tueller Drill shows convincingly that if you are within 21 feet of a man with a knife and he charges you, he will be on top of you in about 1.5 seconds -- before you can draw and shoot. And even if you manage to shoot, he will probably still live long enough to cut you three ways.