A Very Trumpian Impeachment Defense

[togor]

Two pronged defensive strategy.

1) Argue a technicality, that since he's out of office, jurisdiction no longer applies. Counter-argument: the trial is for acts committed in office, and the penalty of barring future Federal office remains available if convicted.

2) Throw the capitol rioters under the bus. Though the phrase "fight like hell" may mean different things to different people, it surely would not occur to any of those criminally charged for January 6, that this was not in fact what they were doing.

Classically Trumpian in both denying jurisdiction and screwing the little guy. However I have no sympathy for those charged. They should have known better, so let them learn the hard way. And yet Conservatives will not have a better chance of ridding themselves of Trump in his lifetime. They should seize it with alacrity. But they won't, because too many of them are cowards at heart.

[togor]

Added:

Vid of the people Trump has disowned to save his own neck.

[Major Tom]

It is clear to me that Trump DID NOT tell the crowd to break into the Capital! He obviously just wanted them to protest outside the building. At all of Trump's rallies never once did he incite a riot or tell people to break the law. This is Pelosi's battle to scorn Trump! Pelosi is obviously mentally absorbed with hating Trump! SHE should be removed from office! For all the democrats cries to "unite" they are instead dividing the nation like never before or at least since the war between the States

[Johnny P]

Who knows. I wonder if I could still get expelled from college for some of the things I was accused of doing?

[lyman]

Who knows. I wonder if I could still get expelled from college for some of the things I was accused of doing?

in today's world,,


probably and have your degree revoked,

[dogtag]

As the Impeachment process is for removing someone from office -
then exactly how does it apply to someone who is not in office ?

[togor]

As the Impeachment process is for removing someone from office -
then exactly how does it apply to someone who is not in office ?

Reread the OP, barring the guilty from FUTURE Federal office. Congressman, Senator, Judge, President, etc. The Constitution, incredibly enough, isn't meant to be interpreted to Trump's taste only.

[lyman]

As the Impeachment process is for removing someone from office -
then exactly how does it apply to someone who is not in office ?

cause even tho Orange Man Gone, it is still Orange Man Bad,

[togor]

It is clear to me that Trump DID NOT tell the crowd to break into the Capital! He obviously just wanted them to protest outside the building. At all of Trump's rallies never once did he incite a riot or tell people to break the law. This is Pelosi's battle to scorn Trump! Pelosi is obviously mentally absorbed with hating Trump! SHE should be removed from office! For all the democrats cries to "unite" they are instead dividing the nation like never before or at least since the war between the States

Disagree. Strongly. How did he put it? He asserted fraud, then said in cases of fraud, the rules change, things have to be handled differently. Tell me how protesting outside the capitol is doing it different? But busting in to rattle Congress, or worse, sure the hell is different.

He's stone cold guilty.

Remember in the campaign? Would he commit to a peaceful transfer of power? No, he would not. He left all options on the table, including the one he used.

Guilty as sin, for neither the first or last time.

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cause even tho Orange Man Gone, it is still Orange Man Bad,

He is bad.

Not a good reflection on anyone who doesn't see why.

[Johnny P]

If Trump did tell the crowd to attack the Capital when he appeared before them, wonder how they ran back to the house to get all their weapons, headdresses, zip ties, etc.

Poor little AOC thought they had come from her, but like everything else she imagines turned out to be nothing.

[lyman]

Disagree. Strongly. How did he put it? He asserted fraud, then said in cases of fraud, the rules change, things have to be handled differently. Tell me how protesting outside the capitol is doing it different? But busting in to rattle Congress, or worse, sure the hell is different.

He's stone cold guilty.

Remember in the campaign? Would he commit to a peaceful transfer of power? No, he would not. He left all options on the table, including the one he used.

Guilty as sin, for neither the first or last time.

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He is bad.

Not a good reflection on anyone who doesn't see why.

not a good reflection on those who can't see thru their hatred,



remember,,, UNITY ,,,,

[rayg]

Togor has plenty of that Trump hatred ..He must go to sleep at night saying how much he hates Trump and wakes up in the morning saying it again and then says it all day long...Either he needs medical help or he is an employee of the Dem committee, Lol

[togor]

Sorry, but someone not being able to see why Trump is a bad guy, deliberately leaving him as a mess for other Americans to clean up, is not exactly a bragging point.

Fun fact from Day 2 of the trial: Trump's phrase for Brad Raffensberger, an enemy of the people, was a favorite of that famous defender of liberty, Josef Stalin. Ain't Trumpian populism grand!

[Sandpebble]

Sorry, but someone not being able to see why Trump is a bad guy, deliberately leaving him as a mess for other Americans to clean up, is not exactly a bragging point.

Fun fact from Day 2 of the trial: Trump's phrase for Brad Raffensberger, an enemy of the people, was a favorite of that famous defender of liberty, Josef Stalin. Ain't Trumpian populism grand!

Brad Raffensberger did something that we used to admire as an American trait ... he stood up and told the truth regardless of the consequences , like a man.

He refused to be part of a lie and cheat. His accusers are the enemy of the people ... Brad is a true American Patriot

[lyman]

Sorry, but someone not being able to see why Trump is a bad guy, deliberately leaving him as a mess for other Americans to clean up, is not exactly a bragging point.

Fun fact from Day 2 of the trial: Trump's phrase for Brad Raffensberger, an enemy of the people, was a favorite of that famous defender of liberty, Josef Stalin. Ain't Trumpian populism grand!

seeing bad, (and good) in folks is human nature,

to focus only on the bad, and to try to cancel out someone because you don't like them (regardless of the reason, and honestly, regardless of the cost) is a sign of mental distress


riddle me this,

in the past 4+ years how much time was wasted in Congress over this crap , and what could have been done otherwise to actually help the nation?