Another numb skull idea

[Major Tom]

The communist government in D.C. wants to ban ALL gasoline powered vehicles in the U.S.! Do those idiots stay up all night thinking of crap like that? Comrade Joe has said all along he wants to get rid of all fossil fuels especially coal. Mean while in China, coal powered energy plants are sprouting up like weeds!

[dryheat]

More Niceness. We are going to nice ourselves to extinction.

[togor]

Car companies moving in that direction already, aside from any government actions. Getting rid of combustion engines and transmissions and liquid cooling systems....a lot to like there. Electric vehicles are direct drive and produce gobs of torque at the bottom, where you need it. When range is an issue, enter the fuel cell.

[Johnny P]

The great thing is that electricity comes from a receptacle on the wall, and no pollution is involved.

In our younger years we spent time in Colorado. Driving straight through it took about 17 hours. It would be an impossible trip in an electric vehicle. Electric vehicles are still of limited value, more suited to running back and forth to the store.

[barretcreek]

Figure out how many BTU of fuel is sold and then how many Gigawatts of generating capacity it would take to replace that. Have another toke. Steam power plants are only about 40% efficient and nuclear even less because they do not produce superheated steam. Please don't tell me about solar. Yes, fuel cells have a lot of potential, but the greenies haven't figured out how to run them on H2O.

[Vern Humphrey]

Figure out how many BTU of fuel is sold and then how many Gigawatts of generating capacity it would take to replace that. Have another toke. Steam power plants are only about 40% efficient and nuclear even less because they do not produce superheated steam. Please don't tell me about solar. Yes, fuel cells have a lot of potential, but the greenies haven't figured out how to run them on H2O.

Anyone who has studied the problem can show, with all the losses in transmission, the recharge-discharge cycle and so on, a gasoline-powered car produces LESS pollution than an electric powered car.

[S.A. Boggs]

Anyone who has studied the problem can show, with all the losses in transmission, the recharge-discharge cycle and so on, a gasoline-powered car produces LESS pollution than an electric powered car.

But, but the idea "feels" good and politically correct as well.
Sam

[Vern Humphrey]

But, but the idea "feels" good and politically correct as well.
Sam

Oh, yeah. It's as Ronald Regan said, "It's not that our liberal friends don't know anything, it's that so much of what they know is wrong."

[S.A. Boggs]

Oh, yeah. It's as Ronald Regan said, "It's not that our liberal friends don't know anything, it's that so much of what they know is wrong."

@least the NSD are consistent...consistently wrong!
Sam

[lyman]

Car companies moving in that direction already, aside from any government actions. Getting rid of combustion engines and transmissions and liquid cooling systems....a lot to like there. Electric vehicles are direct drive and produce gobs of torque at the bottom, where you need it. When range is an issue, enter the fuel cell.

Car companies will move 2 directions,
what the consumers will buy, and what the gov't regulates,

and they will work the magic to get CAFE type stuff worked around so they can sell $60K pickups all day long,

as mentioned, electric has its uses, and none of them are long distance,
hybrids are much better for long distance, if you have to have electric,

there is a youtube vid out there where a guy planned a long distance trip in a tesla, it took forever because he had to plan around charging stations, and had to wait for a charge,

much easier, (and as mentioned, less shock to the environment) to fill the gas tank,,,,



fuel cells, maybe,, once they get the hydrogen distro center up , and people have forgotten about the Hindenburg but likely in our lifetimes

[togor]

It's possible that the petroleum engine will eventually go the way of the horse, in that they go from the poor having them, to the rich.

[kj47]

Here in the northeast electric vehicle batteries range would cut quite a bit by the cold and using the 'heater.

[barretcreek]

Was driving east up Donner Pass, something moving about 15-20 mph ahead of me. Tesla with a ways to go.

[Vern Humphrey]

Here in the northeast electric vehicle batteries range would cut quite a bit by the cold and using the 'heater.

Not to worry -- use the backup propulsion system, the pedals. That'll keep you warm, too.

[Major Tom]

Car companies moving in that direction already, aside from any government actions. Getting rid of combustion engines and transmissions and liquid cooling systems....a lot to like there. Electric vehicles are direct drive and produce gobs of torque at the bottom, where you need it. When range is an issue, enter the fuel cell.

You do know where electricity comes from don't you? Thought you didn't! It comes from fossil fuel electric power plants! BTW, China is building more of those by the truck load! So, more useless electric vehicles, the more the electric power plants have to produce which (in case you are still dumb founded) means burning more fossil fuels.