Florida passes common sense college bill

[Vern Humphrey]

I don't know how you read that into it! It only gives a student the right to question w/out consequences and does not lessen the right of the professor for control...What is wrong with that? Almost sounds like democracy don't you think and not Russia..Lol

Well, it's wrong because it affirms that the students have rights, too.

Now let's talk about the next issue, Affirmative Action. Colleges should have strong Affirmative Action plans to ensure diversity of opinion among the faculty. That would solve the problem.

[Mark in Ottawa]

That sort of idea is supported by the Conservative Government in Ontario. They are using the approach of the University of Chicago as a model to protect freedom of speech on campus. For far too long, the left-leaning professors have basically shut down students who disagree with their world view. In fact a couple of years ago, a lecturer at an Ontario university was called on the carpet for daring to show a short video to her students by a professor who refused to support the idea of made-up gender neutral pronouns. Unfortunately for her superiors, she taped the conversation and made it public. There were serious calls to fire her two superiors. You can read about the Chicago approach here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicag...0safe%20spaces.

[Vern Humphrey]

That sort of idea is supported by the Conservative Government in Ontario. They are using the approach of the University of Chicago as a model to protect freedom of speech on campus. For far too long, the left-leaning professors have basically shut down students who disagree with their world view. In fact a couple of years ago, a lecturer at an Ontario university was called on the carpet for daring to show a short video to her students by a professor who refused to support the idea of made-up gender neutral pronouns. Unfortunately for her superiors, she taped the conversation and made it public. There were serious calls to fire her two superiors. You can read about the Chicago approach here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicag...0safe%20spaces.

It was a Prime Minister of Canada, I believe, who said, "We respect freedom of speech, but we don't worship it."

Hello! If you don't worship basic human rights, you don't respect them.

[Mark in Ottawa]

Vern: If I didn't consider this to be a forum of gentlemen, I would describe the Canadian Prime Minister in appropriate gender specific nouns, some of which would make a sergeant-major blush.

[Vern Humphrey]

Vern: If I didn't consider this to be a forum of gentlemen, I would describe the Canadian Prime Minister in appropriate gender specific nouns, some of which would make a sergeant-major blush.

Well, I WAS (and still am, by law) a Major of Infantry. So maybe I can guess -- "He's a 418, 617, double barreled, four-flushing son of a 913!"

[RED]

A movie quote:

J.W. Grant: "You bastard."

Rico: "Yes sir. In my case an accident of birth, but you, Sir, you're a self-made man."

[lyman]

These are mixed up times....but anyone who thinks that a State Legislature has the key to solve campus speech issues is fooling themselves.

As much as we'd like to think the hard sciences are not plagued by crackpots, it simply isn't true. Science is a human endeavor, and therefore subject to human foibles. So my example of a dispute in calculus class is not as far-fetched as one might think.

the R side is slowly learning from the D side re how to combat the wokeness of the D,


as mentioned in this thread, Colleges and Universities, once a bastion of rational thought and learning, have morphed into liberal enclaves that don't teach the basic rights unless they are apply only to them,

so if a person thought they had free speech,, they soon realized they did not, if they wanted to succeed in campus life,


the D's, which includes almost all higher learning, are so busy consuming anyone that thinks differently , including their own, that they have forgotten that part of the curriculum used to be how to think differently