More BLM protests ...Don't they work!..Oops silly question

[S.A. Boggs]

I can only add that Togy came to the house a couple times to pick up a couple guns he brought ..Appeared mentally normal ..Lol

Then one cannot really "know" a person from a "casual" standpoint now can one?
Sam

[JB White]

I can only add that Togy came to the house a couple times to pick up a couple guns he brought ..Appeared mentally normal ..Lol

And you let him take the guns without a NICS? LOL!

[rayg]

I probably should have run a want on him..Lol.

[togor]

JB by "good" I mean justifiable.

The LEO in the Toledo case gets the benefit of the doubt in that situation because there had already been firearms activity.

Up in Brooklyn Center the resistance such as it was apparently warranted a taser, not a bullet, if someone wants to go by the judgement of the LEOs on the scene.

That's my point, that civilians have to factor a LEO effup possibility in their dealings with them. That must be as frustrating as hell, that not only do you have to give them all the power, you have factor in the possibility that they'll just screw up and won't listen to you.

One of the things Americans pride themselves on is a love of individual liberty. It's not in our nature to submit meekly to flawed government authority.

[lyman]

JB by "good" I mean justifiable.

The LEO in the Toledo case gets the benefit of the doubt in that situation because there had already been firearms activity.

Up in Brooklyn Center the resistance such as it was apparently warranted a taser, not a bullet, if someone wants to go by the judgement of the LEOs on the scene.

That's my point, that civilians have to factor a LEO effup possibility in their dealings with them. That must be as frustrating as hell, that not only do you have to give them all the power, you have factor in the possibility that they'll just screw up and won't listen to you.

One of the things Americans pride themselves on is a love of individual liberty. It's not in our nature to submit meekly to flawed government authority.

since you have given up of figuring out or have not figured out what I was referring to, saying that simply cause you have repeated yet again the error in the quoted post above,


keep in mind what I am about to type is not in the Democratic Playbook, which I know you know chapter and verse,,



the Civilians have to factor,,,,,


guess what

the LEO/Police, county, city, village, town, state, whatever location they are in, are Civilians,


LEO is a job, just like brick layer, just like engineer, just like backhoe operator,

different training, standards, hours etc etc yes,, but a Civilian job nonetheless,



one of the biggests issues with some of these cases is that folks want to assume the Police is not Civilian,
it brings more of the us vs them into the picture, which is what a lot of the leftward leaning folks want,


remember also, due to the GWOT for the past 20 yrs, Police agencies have hired Vets, and lots want to be Operators in a Police Uniform, but they are also still just Civilians, just like you and I



fact is also that due to the current narrative, damn near any police shooting is going get big publicity,
I say damn near because if the wrong demographics are involved, it goes from page one to page 30 section 10 of the paper in a day or so,

also left out is why they were under police scrutiny in the first place,

[rayg]

One of the things Americans pride themselves on is a love of individual liberty. It's not in our nature to submit meekly to flawed government authority.

Flawed is only based on some ones opinion...

[JB White]

The term civilians comes up a lot. Police refer to the general public as civilians. That part is correct in the general sense as we are supposed to be non combatants.
The police on the other hand should/would/could be called civilians. However they are in the employ of a government entity. They are vetted and screened more than a security guard would be. They receive a much higher regimen of training. They are armed to thwart those who would do harm and they have the power of arrest. They are duty bound 24/7. They are officers of the court.
It's not exactly a run of the mill civilian job.

[lyman]

The term civilians comes up a lot. Police refer to the general public as civilians. That part is correct in the general sense as we are supposed to be non combatants.
The police on the other hand should/would/could be called civilians. However they are in the employ of a government entity. They are vetted and screened more than a security guard would be. They receive a much higher regimen of training. They are armed to thwart those who would do harm and they have the power of arrest. They are duty bound 24/7. They are officers of the court.
It's not exactly a run of the mill civilian job.

run of the mill, maybe, maybe not,

but they are employed by a Civilian Authority, and are no different than you or I


if we (as a people or citizen) decide otherwise, then we would be under a military type rule,