Unions, Dems to Rake in Billions From PRO Act

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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #1

    Unions, Dems to Rake in Billions From PRO Act

    Unions, Dems to Rake in Billions From PRO Act

    Report: Unions, Dems to Rake in Billions From PRO Act
    Unions could spend $3 billion on politics every election cycle


    President Joe Biden and Democratic groups could see a surge in donations if they are able to pass landmark labor reforms that would force workers to pay union dues, according to a report.

    The White House has made the PRO Act a centerpiece of its agenda in the opening days of the Biden administration. Biden has committed to being the "most pro-union president," but labor groups are not the only ones who will benefit from the elimination of right-to-work laws and collective bargaining reforms. Democratic candidates and liberal groups could see political and lobbying spending "increase to nearly $3 billion per two-year cycle," according to a report from the Institute for the American Worker.

    President Joe Biden and Democratic groups could see a surge in donations if they are able to pass landmark labor reforms that would force workers to pay union dues, according to a report.
  • Vern Humphrey
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 15875

    #2
    Abraham Lincoln asked, "If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?"

    The answer is four -- it doesn't matter what you call it, a tail is still a tail.

    And if you have to pay money to get or keep a job, that's a kick-back. It doesn't matter if you call it union dues, a kick-back is still a kick-back.

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11269

      #3
      some unions do go by their members, re wages and retirement bennies,


      others are basically a racket,

      they may have there place in some industries, but not all

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      • JB White
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 13371

        #4
        I learned early on that wages and benefits are governed by whatever the local market can tolerate. Push too hard and you'll push yourself out of the way. Not many unions teach that to their members anymore.
        2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


        **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #5
          Originally posted by lyman
          some unions do go by their members, re wages and retirement bennies,


          others are basically a racket,

          they may have there place in some industries, but not all
          If unions do a good job, people will CHOOSE to join. The fact that that workers have to be FORCED to join proves they do not serve their members,

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11269

            #6
            Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
            If unions do a good job, people will CHOOSE to join. The fact that that workers have to be FORCED to join proves they do not serve their members,
            true,

            but Va is a right to work state,

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            • Vern Humphrey
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 15875

              #7
              Originally posted by lyman
              true,

              but Va is a right to work state,
              So is Arkansas. They're trying to eliminate the states' power to pass right to work laws.

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              • dryheat
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 10587

                #8
                Arizona is a right to work state too. Which means a little slavery is OK. I worked for the Postal Service and we had several unions. My only experience with them. Good somewhat. We didn't have any six year old's pushing bins of mail. That was good. We had goofballs who should have been fired the first year but managed to screw off for 25. The think I always remember was the "memorandum of understanding" which(I'm no expert on this) meant we don't do things out here like they do in New York.
                If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                • Vern Humphrey
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 15875

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dryheat
                  Arizona is a right to work state too. Which means a little slavery is OK. I worked for the Postal Service and we had several unions. My only experience with them. Good somewhat. We didn't have any six year old's pushing bins of mail. That was good. We had goofballs who should have been fired the first year but managed to screw off for 25. The think I always remember was the "memorandum of understanding" which(I'm no expert on this) meant we don't do things out here like they do in New York.
                  Are you saying that before the unions, there WERE 6-year olds pushing bins of mail? Got a picture you can post?

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11269

                    #10
                    as JB said, market conditions, etc etc,

                    my brother was an IBEW electrician, left that work years ago but still pays his dues each year, and will get a good retirement out of it,
                    he was a CCWA member as an employee of Verizon, but that union sucks almost as bad as the UFCW so he dropped out,

                    we both know some guys in the trades that went to school and thru part of the apprenticeship process and dropped the union jobs to go to work for a non union company,
                    pay is not usually as good, but the jobs are more plentiful, for whatever reason,


                    most of the HVAC types in this area jump from place to place almost as much as waiters/ waitresses/ bar staff does in the restaurant trade,

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