togor what's wrong with having an id to prove who you are ? Do you have any form of id if you should need it?
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Ah, so he's comparing poor people getting opioids to voters in his area. It still doesn't make a lot of sense to me, unless Walmart runs elections down there, or he doesn't think much of the locals.
Because it's a bit like saying that if astronauts can get full physicals before trips to the International Space Station, then there's no reason for people to be living in trailer parks with untreated diabetes. Unrelated actions with no correlation between groups except for the fact doctors might eventually get involved.
Maybe he should just say "he trusts voters as much as pill hunters". That would be much clearer.Comment
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not sure if you are being obtuse, or just really miss the point,Ah, so he's comparing poor people getting opioids to voters in his area. It still doesn't make a lot of sense to me, unless Walmart runs elections down there, or he doesn't think much of the locals.
Because it's a bit like saying that if astronauts can get full physicals before trips to the International Space Station, then there's no reason for people to be living in trailer parks with untreated diabetes. Unrelated actions with no correlation between groups except for the fact doctors might eventually get involved.
Maybe he should just say "he trusts voters as much as pill hunters". That would be much clearer.
and no, it's not a bit like saying anything like that at all, you are reaching againComment
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The point "if you can get an ID for pills then you can get one for voting" takes two unrelated activities, pill hunting and voting, and links them by nothing more than the fact that in some places IDs are needed. But having linked them, comparisons between the two are unavoidable. And yes, because of that linkage, it is fair to conclude that Vern trusts Arkansas voters as much as he does Arkansas pill hunters, which is to say not much at all.
That is the basic motivation behind demands for IDs for voters: people don't trust the voters. This is what is different between now and say 50 years ago. And this so-called lack of trust is really just about we don't like the outcomes of these elections and need to do something about that. From there it is a short hop to: I am harmed when someone else votes for an opposing candidate, thereby cancelling out my vote. And in fact you are starting to see more and more of that kind of thinking bubbling up on the right.Last edited by togor; 07-02-2021, 07:26.Comment
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I know of a fence post out in the Sonoran Desert that would love to debate you.The point "if you can get an ID for pills then you can get one for voting" takes two unrelated activities, pill hunting and voting, and links them by nothing more than the fact that in some places IDs are needed.
That is the basic motivation behind demands for IDs for voters: people don't trust the voters. This is what is different between now and say 50 years ago. And this so-called lack of trust is really just about [I]we don't like the outcomes of these elections and need to do something about that.Comment
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it would pack up and leave ,
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so to answer my question,, bothThe point "if you can get an ID for pills then you can get one for voting" takes two unrelated activities, pill hunting and voting, and links them by nothing more than the fact that in some places IDs are needed. But having linked them, comparisons between the two are unavoidable. And yes, because of that linkage, it is fair to conclude that Vern trusts Arkansas voters as much as he does Arkansas pill hunters, which is to say not much at all.
That is the basic motivation behind demands for IDs for voters: people don't trust the voters. This is what is different between now and say 50 years ago. And this so-called lack of trust is really just about we don't like the outcomes of these elections and need to do something about that. From there it is a short hop to: I am harmed when someone else votes for an opposing candidate, thereby cancelling out my vote. And in fact you are starting to see more and more of that kind of thinking bubbling up on the right.Comment

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