Electric vehicles are the wave of the future!

[sid]

If you run the heater or AC the battery will run down in no time.

[PWC]

I bought a Prius in 2003, not because it was "green" but because I drove 75 mi round trip to work.
My truck got 23 mpg, the Prius got 63 mpg with just me on the car, when carpooling witn 2 others, it got 55-57 mpg.

Now, it's not an electric, but a hybrid. I drove it from PHX to OK City on 4 fill-ups on 4 different occations. It was 9 yr old when it was time to replace the hybrid batt ($4K), about the same as a new engine/transmission. There are 3 major things ($$$) that can go wrong with a Prius; hybrid battery, hybrid system, and one other that I can't remember. So, on a 9 yr old car, I decided to buy a new batt...in a new Prius. Didn't want to deal with the other 2 "possibilities".

I know the Greenie argument about making the battery, I also know about, all the other pollution caused by innumerable sources that my individual actions wlill have no affect, blah, blah blah.....

I do know how "my actions" affect my lifestyle. My current Prius gets 55+ mpg (I'm retired now) and I fill it up once a month.

So if the liberals here are greenies, flame away. In Yoda speek, "Offended you are...give a s**t I don't".

[lyman]

hybrids are the way to do, EV may have it's uses, but not for long ranges

I test drove a Prius years ago, maybe a 2010 model, or 2013, cannot remember which,

road very well, very quiet (Toyota builds a nice quiet car\truck, compared to honda etc)

I was looking for a high gas mileage per gallon vehicle, but also wanted some fun,

and ended up with a MINI Cooper Hardtop S, (32mpg, when I kept my foot out of it)
the Prius was nice, but I did not like the way it handled in a corner

my Civic SE, 6 yrs old, delivers 36mpg on summer blend, , and is not as quiet as the Prius or any other Toyota I ever owned

[BudT]

Wife's Forester 4 cyl. turbo charged all wheel drive car gets 31 on the open road, not to bad for a rocket with wheels. I suppose a hybrid would work out for some stuff. My grand daughter has one and it wont pull hills well at all, does great on the flats just no guts for the grades. Every Yoda I have owned was a noise bucket maybe I was just unlucky but they reminded me of the helicopters I flew in Vietnam, Stateside and Germany. My 19 Taco is a noise bucket I wont be buying another one that's for sure.

[jaie5070]

I've driven my mom back and forth from Tucson to Silverton CO. Did it for years. Her Prius averaged 45mpg on the freeways, doing 75-80. The big advantage for the ev's and hybrids is reducing emissions in the urban areas. I still remember the smog alerts of the '70s, in kalifornia.

[Major Tom]

A Prius is a small, really small, car that is cramped with 2 people. Not ideal for long trips even if they could go 300 miles per charge!

[lyman]

A Prius is a small, really small, car that is cramped with 2 people. Not ideal for long trips even if they could go 300 miles per charge!

you must be a large guy,


I found the Prius to be quite comfortable, for 2, and I did sit in the back seat of the one test drove and it was not that bad,
much more room than the Cooper S Hardtop I had,,

[PWC]

On one of my trips back to OK city, somewhere betseen Abalene and Mclean, a little blue Smart car passed me and my wife; came out of nowhere. I was doing 75, and it went past, and on out of sight, hard to do in the flat land.

[Major Tom]

you must be a large guy,


I found the Prius to be quite comfortable, for 2, and I did sit in the back seat of the one test drove and it was not that bad,
much more room than the Cooper S Hardtop I had,,

Nope, not a large guy at 5'10" 175 lbs. You must be one of the 'little people'. Where did you put your suitcases and travel stuff? A 2000 mile vacation would be rather gruesome!
Little cars are for little people and in suburbia only!

[Johnny P]

There was a clip on the news about a Tesla that crashed into someone else's garage and caught fire. The fire department hosed it down, only to have it keep reigniting. According to Tesla they had to keep pouring water on it to cool it down until it burned itself out. In all 28,000 gallons of water was used before it was completely extinguished.

There is also the problem of what to do with the vehicle when it has reached the end of it's useful life. It can't be sent to the scrap yard to be reduced to usable scrap. The battery packs must be dismantled by a prescribed method or there is a chance that they can explode.

Electric vehicles aren't there yet.

[lyman]

Nope, not a large guy at 5'10" 175 lbs. You must be one of the 'little people'. Where did you put your suitcases and travel stuff? A 2000 mile vacation would be rather gruesome!
Little cars are for little people and in suburbia only!

You are only a couple inches taller than I,

I don't travel 2000 miles, usually no more than 5 hrs or so at the longest ,
most are less

used to drive MINI Cooper S's , so used to small cars,

the Prius is spacy compared,

[BudT]

There was a clip on the news about a Tesla that crashed into someone else's garage and caught fire. The fire department hosed it down, only to have it keep reigniting. According to Tesla they had to keep pouring water on it to cool it down until it burned itself out. In all 28,000 gallons of water was used before it was completely extinguished.

There is also the problem of what to do with the vehicle when it has reached the end of it's useful life. It can't be sent to the scrap yard to be reduced to usable scrap. The battery packs must be dismantled by a prescribed method or there is a chance that they can explode.

Electric vehicles aren't there yet.

Exotic water reactive materials involved, different reactions for different materials with water. It get's very interesting and exciting putting water on burning magnesium, my suggestion is don't do it unless you have the protective gear and properly trained, even then it's dangerous. Sort of like taking the covid shot.
Regards
Bud

[Johnny P]

Whose advice you gonna take? Tesla advised to keep pouring water on the battery pack.

Looks like those that chose not to take the covid shot may have the opportunity to get natural immunity through contacting the virus with the second strain that is making the rounds in a more potent form.

[Art]

Whose advice you gonna take? Tesla advised to keep pouring water on the battery pack.

Looks like those that chose not to take the covid shot may have the opportunity to get natural immunity through contacting the virus with the second strain that is making the rounds in a more potent form.

It depends on what you mean by "more potent." The new strain is not more deadly though it is more contagious. Pandemics play out on their own after 2-3 years because the new strains are less deadly partly due to the increased resistance of the "herd," partly because it's actually in the bug's survival interest to become less deadly. That's what happened with the "Spanish flu." The H1N1 is still around it just doesn't kill a lot of folks any more.

[Art]

Nope, not a large guy at 5'10" 175 lbs. You must be one of the 'little people'. Where did you put your suitcases and travel stuff? A 2000 mile vacation would be rather gruesome!
Little cars are for little people and in suburbia only!

By the numbers, 2021 models:

Toyota Prius: Interior room 93 cu ft., Front headroom 39," legroom 42," hip room 53."

Honda Civic: Interior room 99 cu ft., Front headroom 39," legroom 42," hip room 54."

Toyota Camry: Interior room 100 cu ft., Front headroom 38," legroom 42," hip room 55."

The big difference in interior room between a Prius and the others is all in the back seat largely due to 33" rear headroom. In the front seat the difference in roominess between the three cars is negligible.