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  • Art
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Dec 2009
    • 9256

    #16
    Originally posted by togor
    Well Art do you want to be living in the country that runs out first or last?

    Greens need to take a fresh look at nuclear power, but simultaneously the industry itself needs to get its head out of its own ass. It has allowed costs to get so out of whack that windmills and gas turbines with their obvious problems look far more attractive economically. Those contractors still in the nuclear business strive to milk the living sh*t out of every job that comes in the door, because "cost plus" is the normal operating procedure.
    When he was president Jimmy Carter said the worlds oil reserves would be totally exhausted by 2011. You are correct, though, oil, natural gas, and coal are all finite and we need to get used to the idea that it really won't be here forever. Current estimates are 100 years, 150-175 years at the outside, for the reserves we have now but the day of accoutability will come eventually.

    You are right about the Nuclear industry on both sides.

    The real emissions problems are not here or in Europe. The Chi Coms get 65% of their power from coal and are building more plants. The Indians get 70% of their power from coal. In the recent climate talks they and the true third world countries told everyone else to "pound sand," resulting in an agreement that means, effectively, nothing. That is a truly intractable problem, the real giant hot pink elephant in the room.

    Again, I would, again, strongly suggest you watch the Moore documentary I mentioned earlier. It won't make anyone on any side of the issue feel warm, fuzzy, or optimistic.
    Last edited by Art; 11-24-2021, 05:04.

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #17
      Art the Chinese are working on non-carbon tech, wanting to corner the market on wind and solar equipment, even as they stopgap with coal.

      India is just going to burn coal and diesel to run air conditioners with pretty much no other plans.

      I agree with you that going forward those two countries will be the big emitters.

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      • rayg
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 7444

        #18
        Originally posted by lyman
        seems the mod posting in this thread is suddenly ok with these names,

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        you a mod now?

        Makes one wonder if he isn't Togor in disguise! Lol
        Last edited by rayg; 11-24-2021, 02:00.

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        • Roadkingtrax
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 7835

          #19
          Originally posted by rayg
          Makes one wonder if he isn't Togor in disguise! Lol
          No, it doesn't.

          Allen (Gunsmoke) and S.A Boggs (?) had duplicate accounts and constantly accused others of the same. Are you projecting too Ray?

          Everyone has a boss.
          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #20
            Originally posted by lyman
            you are Mr Sensitive Thin Skin, just surprised you let it slide
            LOL

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            Originally posted by rayg
            Makes one wonder if he isn't Togor in disguise! Lol
            Ray the troll, LOL

            Seriously, there's like 10 of us left, we might as well get along.

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            • Johnny P
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 6268

              #21
              Originally posted by togor
              US production is headed back up.
              Has nothing to do with my post. Biden's handlers aren't much more lucid them him, and the idea of pulling 50 million barrels out of the SPR solves nothing.

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              • dryheat
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 10587

                #22
                Leave China alone, since they make stuff we can use. Let's declare war on India. They are "attacking" us with bad air. Just the poor parts. They wouldn't mind. Yeah, they are Hindu, but they're flexable. Sort of a warning shot to China. I have to think of everything.
                Last edited by dryheat; 11-24-2021, 09:51.
                If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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