Who are the children?

[rayg]

Togor said..
When communism fell apart in Eastern Europe in the early 90s, there were a bunch of party bosses who wanted to stay on top. The most successful method found was to turn themselves into right wing populist, nationalist politicians.

Ray says...

I assume you have proof of this!

[togor]

Togor said..
When communism fell apart in Eastern Europe in the early 90s, there were a bunch of party bosses who wanted to stay on top. The most successful method found was to turn themselves into right wing populist, nationalist politicians.

Ray says...

I assume you have proof of this!

The proof is low hanging fruit in the former Soviet Republics.

Free for the picking, help yourself!

In the Warsaw Pact countries, the picture is a bit different but not much. Populations used to Communist political simplicity find Western-style multiparty Democracy and liberalism, press freedom to much to handle in such a short time, and yearn for the firm hand, even if it is an authoritarian one. Poland and Hungary fit this bill.

Related, a good example of how the extremes meet at the far end is the whole "occupy" movement in Canada right now, which is vociferously cheered and supported by prominent personalities on the American right. These protestors in Canada use similar tactics as the "occupy" protests of the American left a few years back, and are about as popular with the public-at-large.

[rayg]

Well I guess you don't have any proof!

[lyman]

Well I guess you don't have any proof!

you didn't expect any did you?

[togor]

you didn't expect any did you?

I refuse to believe people are so feeble that they can't do a quick web survey of governments in former Soviet Republics and see for themselves how it goes in Russia, or, say, Kazakhstan.

If I am wrong, then it explains the spoon-fed opinions we so often see.

[rayg]

Why don't you give us the history lesson!

[togor]

Why don't you give us the history lesson!

I already did!

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Besides, Lyman doesn't like it when people discuss ideas. He much prefers a dead forum. Last couple days for him were heaven!

[lyman]

I refuse to believe people are so feeble that they can't do a quick web survey of governments in former Soviet Republics and see for themselves how it goes in Russia, or, say, Kazakhstan.

If I am wrong, then it explains the spoon-fed opinions we so often see.

so,, just words?

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I already did!

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Besides, Lyman doesn't like it when people discuss ideas. He much prefers a dead forum. Last couple days for him were heaven!

nope, you really need to do 2 things

be glad pat made you a moderator,, cause instead of a 30 day vacation you got elsewhere, you would be perma banned here

and

really stop assuming what I like and don't like,


your constant trolling is why many many folks left this forum,


the death is on you as the head Stoo ge,

[togor]

You deny your own actions in deadening the place? Figures you would.

If we're being honest, time has taken it's share. Covid might have claimed one or two as well. And traffic in general on multiple forums is way down. I'm at cmp, milsurps, even the k98k forum every blue moon. I *might* have a handle at an old p38 forum but if so it has been years. BTW, no suspensions or anything, so don't know what you're talking about there.

On all the forums, you're the only guy I ever met who seems to have an unhealthy fixation with another member. RED and I had some epic battles, but it's never like I got in his head or him in mine. You on the other hand have a bad case of TDS. Any post I make, you feel compelled to respond. Whereas the reverse is not true.

This post for example. Can you let it pass by without saying something? I doubt it. Even though, posting or not posting, it changes absolutely nothing.

[lyman]

You deny your own actions in deadening the place? Figures you would.

If we're being honest, time has taken it's share. Covid might have claimed one or two as well. And traffic in general on multiple forums is way down. I'm at cmp, milsurps, even the k98k forum every blue moon. I *might* have a handle at an old p38 forum but if so it has been years. BTW, no suspensions or anything, so don't know what you're talking about there.

On all the forums, you're the only guy I ever met who seems to have an unhealthy fixation with another member. RED and I had some epic battles, but it's never like I got in his head or him in mine. You on the other hand have a bad case of TDS. Any post I make, you feel compelled to respond. Whereas the reverse is not true.

This post for example. Can you let it pass by without saying something? I doubt it. Even though, posting or not posting, it changes absolutely nothing.

my own actions, as in stopping the daily brawl?


you need to take a good long look at the real togor,

when you have folks on other forums contacting me about the way you behave here, and asking why you are still here
when you have folks on other forums know that you are a troll and tell me that is why they left this forum
when you have a thread here saying moderator not wanted,
when you have members here debunking the BS you post,

you are the ring leader, the #1 target here,

and yes, RED and his side did not help matters, and yes, he got in more trouble because he could not follow the rules, where you have managed to walked the line a bit better than him
that is not a compliment btw, it's another of your badges of shame

shall I go on?

some folks have moved on,
some folks have passed
some folks are lurking, not posting

example is we have 35 folks that have read this thread as of now,

not all post or have not posted in a while,

but they are still here,




am I a perfect person, or perfect moderator? nope but I do take this role seriously,


btw,, do we need to discuss your firearms safety habits again?





and to close, if you want to post here, then post up, I surely can't stop you
but be aware everyone here knows your number,




your comment

On all the forums, you're the only guy I ever met who seems to have an unhealthy fixation with another member. RED and I had some epic battles, but it's never like I got in his head or him in mine. You on the other hand have a bad case of TDS. Any post I make, you feel compelled to respond. Whereas the reverse is not true.


due to your, as pointed out, past performance here, you are one of the members that I have to read each and every post you make,
there are others here that can open or start a thread, post etc, and I never have to worry about them violating a forum rule or being disruptive/disrespectful/ or in any other way

except you,

there is no TDS, there is no thought of you, you are just the one that cannot be trusted