Does anyone really believe Russia will invade Ukraine

[dryheat]

What the point of having a big army if you can't show it off once in a while.

[togor]

I think so yes.

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What the point of having a big army if you can't show it off once in a while.

That's what parades are for innit?

[lyman]

invade,, not really

saber rattling, posturing , maybe a shot across the bow,

more like take over by election or something other than full scale invasion

[bruce]

They will do exactly as they please. If they can get what they want w/o invading ... or if they can get more of what they want by invading ... they will do whatever they want w/o any concerns about slow joe or the europeans. He's holding all the cards. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.

[Roadkingtrax]

Crimea.

[lyman]

Crimea.

you thinking 2.0?


not sure that will happen,

[lyman]

[dryheat]

An article I read said, Russia probably won't invade, but won't pull back either so it stays unsettled for as long as it takes. Fear and worry can be damaging. It already has been. Today should be interesting.

[togor]

An article I read said, Russia probably won't invade, but won't pull back either so it stays unsettled for as long as it takes. Fear and worry can be damaging. It already has been. Today should be interesting.

That's part of it, making time work for you and not the other guys, or at least getting the other guys to believe time is on your side. Keeping a good chunk of their army at jump-off points indefinitely causes problems. Also they are shoveling coal like mad into their own propaganda furnances to get the Russian public opinion where they want it. Those things don't get easier over time. Plus time without invasion gives the defender more time to prepare. It may also cause the defender to lose his marbles and cracks to form in European opinion. But so far Putin is an adept diplomat at keeping the West united.

Given it is the Russians who have said that matters have reached such a crisis as requiring them to assemble a field army on the Ukranian border, I can't see them just sitting there indefinitely without somehow "proving" the matter.

[Roadkingtrax]

False flag operations have already begun. It's not a cartoon bear, it's real people's lives and livelihoods.

[one shot]

What was the last war russia engaged in and won without our help , I can't recall any .

[lyman]

False flag operations have already begun. It's not a cartoon bear, it's real people's lives and livelihoods.

that we need to stay out of, let Europe, even if thru NATO, take care of it,

[barretcreek]

Here's the opinion of one guy 'on the ground'.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/stocks-tumble-after-donbas-separatists-announce-evacuation-women-children-russia

[togor]

Notice how the reports are coming out of territories the Russians control, and they blame destruction on people not in control there.

I have a friend in Slovenia who has Russian expat friends there. They report that family back in Mother Russia are getting pounded with tales of Ukrainian and NATO provocation. One guy's father, a genial middle aged musician, has it so bad now he wants to go to Donbass to fight the evildoers.

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that we need to stay out of, let Europe, even if thru NATO, take care of it,

Too bad Ronnie isn't around anymore to explain why that doesn't work. Hint: it never was about Communism specifically, although the Communists were the bad guys then. Bad guys come in non-Communist flavors too.

[lyman]

Notice how the reports are coming out of territories the Russians control, and they blame destruction on people not in control there.

I have a friend in Slovenia who has Russian expat friends there. They report that family back in Mother Russia are getting pounded with tales of Ukrainian and NATO provocation. One guy's father, a genial middle aged musician, has it so bad now he wants to go to Donbass to fight the evildoers.

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Too bad Ronnie isn't around anymore to explain why that doesn't work. Hint: it never was about Communism specifically, although the Communists were the bad guys then. Bad guys come in non-Communist flavors too.

whatever dude,

keep towing the party line,