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[RED]

Feb. 17, 2022 1:12 pm ET

https://www.wsj.com/articles/us-flying-aces-need-more-time-air-airforce-marines-pilots-training-exercises-expenses-military-budget-china-taiwan-11645117426?mod=opinion_lead_pos8

When the US air forces need to be at their best, they are not combat ready. 1/2 our F-22 s are awaiting parts or maintenance.

[togor]

Well if the sequester hangover is true, then slashing the burn rate by getting out of Afghanistan is a good first step.

But jeepers, $700B/yr defense budget ought to buy a little flight time after all the toilet seats, right?

[RED]

Well if the sequester hangover is true, then slashing the burn rate by getting out of Afghanistan is a good first step.

But jeepers, $700B/yr defense budget ought to buy a little flight time after all the toilet seats, right?

I am sure you did not know this, but there are no toilets or toilet seats aboard any of the F-22, F-35, FA-18, F-16, F-15, A-10 combat aircraft.

Maybe if the military would spend money on training combat aviators instead of spending millions on transgender operations, pregnancy leave, and classes to teach military officers how to overthrow the government.

[Art]

There are those, usually on the left, who complain about things like Air Force flyovers at football games as a waste of money. Anytime flying the aircraft is training, and IIRC the 'gubmint charges a fee for the service.

[lyman]

There are those, usually on the left, who complain about things like Air Force flyovers at football games as a waste of money. Anytime flying the aircraft is training, and IIRC the 'gubmint charges a fee for the service.

fee or not, it is as you say Training,
also gives John Q Public a chance to see what he/she/they are paying for,

ditto Air Shows and the like,

passive recruiting is another way to look at it,

[Vern Humphrey]

I happen to know about the $700 toilet seat. Congress, years ago, canceled a program and did not get the savings they expected -- because it is the FIRST aircraft that is the most expensive. All the R&D has been done, and that is the huge cost driver.

Congress then decreed that everything should be pro-rated. Including tools and spare parts. So every nut and bolt carries some of the R&D costs. But how do you do that? Congress said "straight line it." That toiled seat, therefore carries a huge R&D burden.

[togor]

I am sure you did not know this, but there are no toilets or toilet seats aboard any of the F-22, F-35, FA-18, F-16, F-15, A-10 combat aircraft.

Maybe if the military would spend money on training combat aviators instead of spending millions on transgender operations, pregnancy leave, and classes to teach military officers how to overthrow the government.

It's an appropriations joke, how much the military spends on certain items of hardware. Toilet seats, coffee makers, appliances, etc.

One thing they don't spend it on lately is dentists.
My son has a friend in the Navy, he has to come home to the family dentist to get regular checkups. .

[togor]

And the fact remains, $700B/yr ought to buy enough training missions, so maybe money isn't the issue. Maybe the problem is the Pentagon keeps cramming 10 pounds of sh*t into a 5 pound bag and the result is planes on the ground in constant need of repair. If that's the case don't blame the shemales or the wokes.

[lyman]

It's an appropriations joke, how much the military spends on certain items of hardware. Toilet seats, coffee makers, appliances, etc.

One thing they don't spend it on lately is dentists.
My son has a friend in the Navy, he has to come home to the family dentist to get regular checkups. .

military dentists are few and far between and have been for ages,

many folks I know in the service get outside dental work done,

[lyman]

And the fact remains, $700B/yr ought to buy enough training missions, so maybe money isn't the issue. Maybe the problem is the Pentagon keeps cramming 10 pounds of sh*t into a 5 pound bag and the result is planes on the ground in constant need of repair. If that's the case don't blame the shemales or the wokes.

so is this trolling or ignorance?

military folks want the biggest budget slice they can get, and each branch has its Christmas list of new equipment,

and folks like you harp on the hammers and toilet seats that cost millions, sometimes rightfully so,

the military seems to do best when those things are in balance, and the funds are allocated properly, (spares, training, etc)

vs the graft, contract (or contracted) expenditures etc including waste of time feel good crap (I have a good friend a year or 2 from retirement, he tells me the BS is getting a bit too deep in the USAR)
is what costs too much usually, and what needs to be controlled,

[barretcreek]

The $700 toilet seats and $2500 coffee makers were how the Pentagon hid the R&D on the Stealth program.