Want to buy an electric pickup?

[Major Tom]

They are advertised as going 400 miles per charge. That is true! BUT, if you tow a modest trailer or heavy load the mileage will be cut almost in half!
And with charging stations being scarce, well "up a creek". Time lost while charging is valuable. A 500 mile trip might take you 10-12 hours.
A EV truck may power your house, for maybe 2 hours, then dead truck and house! It just isn't feasible to buy any EV vehicle now!

[oscars]

First of all, are you seriously considering buying the EV 150 with its 45k price? Sounds to me like a bunch of pie hole swagger. By the way, if you put in an order for one today, it might be delivered in a couple of years. The demand is over the top! Give me 500 mile range and I am interested.
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[Allen]

No one ever mentions what the mileage would be when running the a/c or heater on these vehicles.

No one ever mentions how long these batteries will last or how many times they can be charged, what the replacement cost would be, what the disposal fee's would be, who (other than dealerships) can make the replacements and/or repairs.

W/o charging stations it's all a pipe dream. When the stations are built (probably at tax payers expense) how long will it take for a charge? We all know that any type of "quick charge" damages batteries.

For those who drive just a few miles a day to work/school/whatever an electric car may be fine but these same folks wouldn't be too discomforted by buying gas either considering how little they would use.

[togor]

Tesla batteries are holding up reasonably well.

Whatever the limitations of EV, their drivers are laughing these days as they pass the gas pump.

[barretcreek]

They won't be laughing when the grid collapses.
Guy here built a self sustaining house, charges his car, sells excess to the grid. Only cost him 60K. What's the payback?

[togor]

They won't be laughing when the grid collapses.
Guy here built a self sustaining house, charges his car, sells excess to the grid. Only cost him 60K. What's the payback?

When?

Sounds like one of those "hey I only have to be right once" deals.

News flash: if widespread electricity outages occur, they will hit petroleum distribution quite hard. The lines will be long and the pumps empty.

There are more ways to produce electricity than the kinds of gasoline modern engines need.

[dogtag]

I assume these Tesla type batteries are like your regular 12 volt car battery
where if tou don't keep them charged, they die ?
Could get expensive.

[pcox]

The only charging stations I've seen were at a Casey's General Store in Hannibal Mo. They were all Tesla brand. Seriously, how many folks in Hannibal Mo have Teslas, and what will be the cost of a charge? If you are a smart business man it will be about the same as a tank of gas. Afterall, the fuel to produce the electricity to supply the chargers will be dependant on the world oil and coal market.

[Art]

They are advertised as going 400 miles per charge. That is true! BUT, if you tow a modest trailer or heavy load the mileage will be cut almost in half!
And with charging stations being scarce, well "up a creek". Time lost while charging is valuable. A 500 mile trip might take you 10-12 hours.
A EV truck may power your house, for maybe 2 hours, then dead truck and house! It just isn't feasible to buy any EV vehicle now!

The driving range of an EV must be taken with a big dose of salt. AAA has found the using the A/C can cut the range by 17%. The real damage comes in driving in very cold weather with the heat on. Running the heater in an EV can cut the range a whopping 50%. The reason for this is internal combustion engined automobiles use waste heat from the engine while an EV has to use electric resistance to get its heat. The up to 500 miles on the Ford truck assumes the HVAC system is not being used.

If you're going to power your house a gasoline vehicle with an inverter is the way to go but that sure isn't cheap either.

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[Vern Humphrey]

Let me see -- here I am towing a trailer loaded with 14 900-lb round bales of hay in sub-freezing weather. Figure the loss for the heavy load, running the heater, and inflated advertising statistics -- wait! I've got it! I'm up to a negative number for miles on one charge -- so I'll just turn around and try to go home, and the rig will go backwards. :-)

[Allen]

Let me see -- here I am towing a trailer loaded with 14 900-lb round bales of hay in sub-freezing weather. Figure the loss for the heavy load, running the heater, and inflated advertising statistics -- wait! I've got it! I'm up to a negative number for miles on one charge -- so I'll just turn around and try to go home, and the rig will go backwards. :-)

Did you make it out of the driveway?

[dogtag]

I like to hear the engine on my old truck. It's sound tells me when to change gear.

[Allen]

With charging stations being few and far apart or non-existent let's not forget all the little items too that would use current and reduce distance traveled such as night driving/having to use your lights, rolling a window down, using a cigarette lighter, playing the radio, wipers, anything.

[lyman]

If I lived closer to town or in the city,
had short commutes and did not need to haul anything at any time,
then an EV may be the way to go,


that will likely never happen,,

[Art]

If I lived closer to town or in the city,
had short commutes and did not need to haul anything at any time,
then an EV may be the way to go,


that will likely never happen,,

For most people who own an EV it's a second car. They use it for just what you said, commuting or short trips.