Democrats considering indicting Trump ...

[dogtag]

Well, that's one way for a Party to commit suicide.
But this lot of imbeciles might just do it. They may think
it will incite their leftist rabble enough to give them a
November win at the polls. I think they really are that stupid.

[Roadkingtrax]

It would be a mistake to indict Trump.

Hope it doesn't happen.

[lyman]

the never trumper/ trump hater / lets get trump crowd will love to do it, and have been trying since 2016

[dryheat]

"You must think I'm a real dangerous man"

[togor]

Have to follow the law and evidence. If there's a case, then to not indict is to suggest that these laws aren't worth enforcing and that only invites worse next time.

Yeah sure a messy ending, but come on, who didn't know it would end in a hot mess when this ride started 7 years ago?

[Art]

They've been trying to indict Trump at the State and Federal level for over 6 years. Everything has gone south on them when it comes to criminal charges. It doesn't look like anything's going to change now.

Being an unpleasant human being still isn't a crime, fortunately.

[Major Tom]

It's just a ploy to stop Trump from running in 2024!

[togor]

They've been trying to indict Trump at the State and Federal level for over 6 years. Everything has gone south on them when it comes to criminal charges. It doesn't look like anything's going to change now.

Being an unpleasant human being still isn't a crime, fortunately.

As a former LEO, I'd like to think (hope?) that your respect for law exceeds your politics.

If they find probable cause for Trump interfering with legitimate functions of the Federal Government, or interfering with Georgia elections, then do prosecutors not have an obligation to pursue those cases? If we start adorning our favorite pols in teflon and giving them a pass, then what follows is on us too.

[Art]

Major Tom is right, this is about nothing more than discouraging Trump from running next time or defeating him if he does.

To indict and convict somebody you have to allege a crime. That includes all of the elements of that crime. That's basic crime fighting. So far no one has alleged that Donald Trump has committed all of the elements of any crime, including those very frustrated tax investigators in New York which was the last big hope of the Dems. When they can do that (allege all of the elements of any crime) I guarantee Trump will be indicted.

Speaking of Teflon...no one is more Teflon coated than Hunter Biden and his old man. I will guarantee that if Hunter Biden's last name was Trump he'd have been indicted for a number of provable crimes, drug violations if nothing else. Those crazy Biden kids, they do leave trails of incriminating stuff. So spare me the "Teflon" garbage. Check your own eye for that plank.

[Vern Humphrey]

Major Tom is right, this is about nothing more than discouraging Trump from running next time or defeating him if he does.

To indict and convict somebody you have to allege a crime. That includes all of the elements of that crime. That's basic crime fighting. So far no one has alleged that Donald Trump has committed all of the elements of any crime, including those very frustrated tax investigators in New York which was the last big hope of the Dems. When they can do that (allege all of the elements of any crime) I guarantee Trump will be indicted.

Speaking of Teflon...no one is more Teflon coated than Hunter Biden and his old man. I will guarantee that if Hunter Biden's last name was Trump he'd have been indicted for a number of provable crimes, drug violations if nothing else. Those crazy Biden kids, they do leave trails of incriminating stuff. So spare me the "Teflon" garbage. Check your own eye for that plank.

It's the ones clamoring for indicting Trump who should be indicted -- the crime is abuse of power.

[dogtag]

Have to follow the law and evidence. If there's a case, then to not indict is to suggest that these laws aren't worth enforcing and that only invites worse next time.

Yeah sure a messy ending, but come on, who didn't know it would end in a hot mess when this ride started 7 years ago?

But only if it's a Republican. It doesn't apply to Democrats like Hunter/Biden does it ?

[togor]

So a bunch of people who are paying no attention whatsoever to the Jan 6 hearings have, as a consequence of paying no attention, decided that nothing implicating Trump has come to light, and therefore if he is indicted, it will be purely political.

And those same people are walking around certain that Joe Biden and Hillary should be in jail already.

Both arguments seem to show a studious lack of engagement with the details.

Long story short, I trust the prosecutors, the ones with their professional skin on the line, to give a better read than Internet Chorus sections. Not that those Chorals aren't sung *loudly*.

[togor]

But only if it's a Republican. It doesn't apply to Democrats like Hunter/Biden does it ?

Evidence matters in all cases.

But only to people who haven't already judged guilt or innocence Russia or China or countries like that.

That's the point....Americans, especially Conservative ones, are supposed to be dedicated to the principle of weighing evidence, against political friend or foe alike.

Anyone who is pre-judging the evidence, unseen to them, is not measuring up.

Conservatism is a dedication to the rule of law.

[togor]

Georgia for example, when he's asking them to find exactly +1 more votes than he needs to win the state, that's clear evidence of intent on Trump's part. This was no call in service of honest and fair elections. This was Trump squeezing Georgia election officials.

If we are going to throw people back in prison for voting after felony conviction, even mistakenly, then let us throw politicians in jail who try to pervert the outcome to their own advantage. Trump certainly had motive galore in both Georgia and Jan 6. Nobody can dispute that.

And as Art knows, motive is huge in investigations.

[togor]

Also, enough of the shell game.

When impeached, a political proceeding, the defense I heard here, even from Art, was "well he hasn't been indicted".

Now he's looking at investigations that could lead to criminal indictments, and I'm hearing, again including Art, "hey this is a political matter, prosecutors have no business."

Enough already!! People have to sack up and re-dedicate themselves to the principles that justice is blind, and nobody is above the law. A GOP where Liz Cheney has the biggest pair of anyone has to fix itself.