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  • dryheat
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 10587

    #1

    Interesting times drought wise

    The southwest states depend on the Colorado river for life sustaining water.
    One report says Lake Mead could be dry by 2035. That?s just twelve yrs away. According to some science reports an 800 year drought was underway back in 1922 (proven by tree rings ect). Because water had been abundant up until that time, water was ?cheap?. There was plenty to go around. So things going the way they usually do, everyone piled on with growth in housing, immigration. Farms were started that weren?t even needed. ?who will pick the lettuce?? That wasn?t a problem when ?regular? farms produced it. But vast farms were encouraged in AZ. So the graph looked just like an X. The water is going down and the growth it going up. There are suggestions that the Mississippi river could divert water with a big canal (that would take twenty yrs. And a trillion dollars to build. Even Lake Michigan could send some water our way. I wish I could live to be 200 to see how it all turns out.
    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.
  • Allen
    Moderator
    • Sep 2009
    • 10583

    #2
    Every time there's a man made river or aqueduct involved disaster follows.

    As far as the Lake Mead and Las Vegas areas go, people can't simply move to the desert by the millions and expect plentiful water for all eternity.

    In other words more water is coming out than is going in as in overpopulation.

    Currently Las Vegas is having flooding problems so maybe the tide is turning for their drought.
    Last edited by Allen; 08-12-2022, 12:32.

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    • dogtag
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 14985

      #3
      Politicians have known this was coming since the 30s but ignored it. Let someone
      else worry about it. Water that could be stored just vanishes into the ocean.
      Idiot Governors like Newsom have caused this and now that it's reached the critical
      stage, he is thinking about plans to build more reservoirs - too little, too late as it
      would take years to accomplish.
      Like I suggested in a previous thread - The excess water that floods the East
      could be sent here via pipelines into the rivers. The Engineers could figure it out.
      A mammoth task but considering California supplies the Country with a whole
      lot of food, it would be worth it. Biden could authorize picking a few billion from
      his money trees. Rockefeller managed to do something similar with his oil
      way back when, so why can't we ? They were smarter back then of course.
      Last edited by dogtag; 08-12-2022, 12:43.

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      • Allen
        Moderator
        • Sep 2009
        • 10583

        #4
        If such a pipeline only caught run-off waters from flooding that could possibly work but as we all know, soon the governors would get involved and require the Eastern states to PUMP water into the pipeline to supply the mass overpopulation. Soon afterwards the East would look like the West as far as dry conditions.

        It's not hard for me to picture the mighty Mississippi destroyed by our politicians.

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        • dryheat
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 10587

          #5
          One person suggested; no one drinks tap water anyway, just send more bottled water. Takes about 40,000 little bottles to fill a swimming pool but that would of course come out of the hose if available.
          But basically, it's been look the other way for the last 50 yrs. or so. So now it gets interesting. It's funny though, some places it's Pouring.
          If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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          • dogtag
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 14985

            #6
            I never drink my tap water as it tastes like crap. Tea and Coffee make it taste better.
            Back in the 70s drought we didn't flush if it was just a pee. That's a lot of water saved.

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Dryest conditions in 1200 years I read.

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              • dogtag
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 14985

                #8
                So who was here 1200 years ago that would know ?

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dogtag
                  So who was here 1200 years ago that would know ?
                  Egghead stuff....you're right they weren't alive then but they are trying to assemble an estimate from such evidence as they can find.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11269

                    #10
                    assemble an estimate,,,,,,,

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                    • dryheat
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 10587

                      #11
                      Bristlecone pines are the oldest living things on earth. I think about a thousand to fifteen hundred yrs. If it was wet the tree rings are wide. Drought and the rings are thin. They can pretty accurately determine how long the droughts lasted. This is old science now. The timing is predictable too. They swing in a rythym of 800 to a little over a thousand years. The angle of the earth and distance from the sun at a particular angle and all that. The sun swells and contracts too. Not much we can do about that, but if it's miserable hot that isn't the time to light up the fireplace either.
                      If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lyman
                        assemble an estimate,,,,,,,
                        "Where does this drought rank?" is a question important to many.

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                        • dogtag
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 14985

                          #13
                          Originally posted by togor
                          Egghead stuff....you're right they weren't alive then but they are trying to assemble an estimate from such evidence as they can find.

                          https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...n-1-200-years/

                          What would we do if you were not here to explain things ?

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11269

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dogtag
                            What would we do if you were not here to explain things ?
                            live in peach and harmony?

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dryheat
                              Bristlecone pines are the oldest living things on earth. I think about a thousand to fifteen hundred yrs. If it was wet the tree rings are wide. Drought and the rings are thin. They can pretty accurately determine how long the droughts lasted. This is old science now. The timing is predictable too. They swing in a rythym of 800 to a little over a thousand years. The angle of the earth and distance from the sun at a particular angle and all that. The sun swells and contracts too. Not much we can do about that, but if it's miserable hot that isn't the time to light up the fireplace either.
                              Took a hike yesterday in an old growth forest along Lake Superior in the UP. Along the trails, some downed fir trees, cut to provide trail access. 25 rings per inch, over 10 inches of rings. Amazingly old yet young compared to those Bristlecone pines.

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