a few very early 303 cartridges

[RCS]

I found these in my collection and decided to post a few photosDSCN2036.jpgDSCN2038.jpg

[dogtag]

That's one helluva hollow point.
Any significance to the neck (crimps ?) ?

[JB White]

The MkIV and MkV rounds had what is casually called a Dum Dum bullet which was halted by the Hague Convention. The crimp is a 'stab' or 'jab' crimp which was a common method at the time.

[RCS]

The "Dum Dum" started with troop modification of the Mark II bullet.

The Mark IV was approved in Feb 1898 with a 215 gr cupro nickel envelope around a hollow point pure lead bullet at 2000 fps

The Mark V was approved in Oct 1899 and again during 1903/04 also with a 215 cupro nickel envelope around a hollow point
bullet but with an alloy mix to the lead, also at 2000 fps

Both the Mark IV and Mark V cartridges in my photo were manufactured in Canada

[JB White]

The "Dum Dum" started with troop modification of the Mark II bullet.

The Mark IV was approved in Feb 1898 with a 215 gr cupro nickel envelope around a hollow point pure lead bullet at 2000 fps

The Mark V was approved in Oct 1899 and again during 1903/04 also with a 215 cupro nickel envelope around a hollow point
bullet but with an alloy mix to the lead, also at 2000 fps

Both the Mark IV and Mark V cartridges in my photo were manufactured in Canada

Thanks for the better details. The Dominion headstamps gave those two away.
What is the MkII...DF? Can't make it out for certain on my screen.

[RCS]

The Mark II is from Eley

[JB White]

I still can't quite make out the headstamp.

[RCS]

early 303 cartridges

JB White it is Kynock on the Mark II, I was wrong about Eley


here is a better photoP1010039_0027.jpgP1010038_0026.jpg

[JB White]

Test me on this. K C = Kynoch /Cordite?

[RCS]

Your right, if that Mark II was blackpowder it would be quite rare and without the Cordite stamp

[JB White]

what did I win?

[RCS]

Both you and the Cubs won !

JB, you won the chance to I.D.dscn0604.jpg these British military rifle cartridges

[JB White]

Thanks much on the Cubs. Been waiting a very long time!

I'm not a cartridge collector but I'll give it a sporting go. Recalling rifles and what they were chambered for. This is where you leave me in the dust...OK?

1. 577-450 foiled
2. Early 303
3. .276 (Pattern 13 rifle)
4. 303 ball
5. The original 4mm SA80 round?
6. 280 for the SLEM?
7.


I don't know. You can see I'm guessing.

[RCS]

That was about the best World Series game in many years too.

1.577-450
2. 303 Mark VI
3. 276 Enfield
4. 303 Mk VII 1916
5. 4,85mm Tracer
6. 7,62x51mm NZ
7, 5,56mm

[JB White]

HA! I was on paper with the first five then flinched the easy ones off into the sunset!

That was about the best World Series game in many years too.

I had to look to see when the Braves played the Twins. That was 1991, so the best in 25 years not counting a few really good ones in between.
I'm still halfway in between dreamland and a state of disbelief. Didn't think I'd live long enough to see it.