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If the choice was a 1903 A4[some variation with wood and receiver] under a weaver 2.5x scope, minimum 2.5 trigger pull or a Garand under an 8x Unertl with a 5 lb trigger pull which would you choose? The range will be 300 and 600 yards 10 rounds each. This is also a timed match.And no you can't put the Unertl on the A4. These are approved combos for the August Vintage Sniper shoot. Thanks Jon B.
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The Unertl is a bad idea, the scope must be reset after the recoil of each shot, not to mention how the heck would you put a Unertl on a Garand??? there is no correct mount.
YES..YES...YES... you can put the return spring on the scope, but they don't always work 100% and you end up checking the scope after each shot any way.
Marty
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Why would they allow a Unertl scope on an M1??? I thought these matches were supposed to be for rifles actually issued or their clones.Comment
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You are correct, mentioning the Unertl on the Garand was not appropriate. The Unertl could be used on a 1941 Springfield. Since I don't have access to a "41 the Question should be " How does the Garand with an M81-M82-M84 Weaver compare in accuracy to the 1903 A4 Springfield"? This is a 2.5x scope.Comment
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I will take the A4 every time. I have fired them all at 600 and 300 and the A4 is the most comfortable I have even tried it with an M1 w/USMC 4X Kollmorgen and the A4 is the most forgiving. The USMC 8X '03 is a real treat to shoot at 600Last edited by Johnny in Texas; 05-10-2011, 05:57.Comment
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I hate the A4 scope, but it works and they are accurate. I would pick the A4.
jtComment
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I would choose a crosshair reticule over a post also.Comment
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not sure where you obtained your information, however the use of a unertl on a m1 will not be allowed, it did not happen in history, this combination did not exist
i would use one of these
200 yard results
to build one of these will cost about a grand plus or minus, however i WOULD NOT USE A GIBBS SCOPE
saw too many of them fail at Eastern Games, and listened to Gibbs try to explain that they were never intended to be used over 100 yards, however you dont see that claim in his ads. he is supposed to be fixing this.. try to find the real deal a alaskan lyman they are out thereLast edited by pelago; 05-21-2011, 03:58.Comment
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What kills me was my friend Col. Dickman was always trying to get me to buy his USMC sniper 03 with Unertl all through the 80's whenever I'd stay with them for a shoot at Camp Bullis or a dental meeting in SA. I'm sure he would have taken a few hundred dollars for it. Who cared about 03's with scopes on them in the 80's?? By the time I realized it might be something I wanted he had sold it, in the late 90's, to a Marine team shooter, AFAIK. Too late.Last edited by Griff Murphey; 05-21-2011, 11:40.Comment
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One of my No4Mk1T's since that's all I have
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The bolt gun for sureComment
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If that Unertl is for an 03, use that. If the spring is allowed, use it. I have never had one fail to return to battery on a high power rifle. If springs are not allowed, pulling the scope into battery is quick and easily done (my sniper has no spring). You will get used to it with practice. Operate the bolt, then pull the scope into battery. Mine is deadly accurate.
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I used my Tribute USMC 1941 at the Eastern Games, and will again at Perry. The best choice would be the 03 over the Garand because of less things that can go wrong. Loose gas plug comes to mind, or a bent op rod could wreck your day. But there is no reason why an exceptional M1 couldn't do as well, but most would not.
The rule of not using the recoil spring stems from the fact that the USMC removed them from their Unertls. Pulling the scope back is what they did, so it's what we have to do.Comment
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