Trimming the final step in brass preparation.

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  • nf1e
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 2122

    #1

    Trimming the final step in brass preparation.

    Ran 500 cases through my Giraud trimmer this morning as the final step in brass preparation. They are now ready for priming later today. Only takes about 1 second per case with the Giraud. Whatta Hobby!

    Brass trimming.jpg
  • Sunray
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3251

    #2
    Trimming should be the second step if it's required. First is checking lengths with a vernier. Then chamfering and deburring after, but you only trim if the case is longer than the max case length. It's not a 'regular' thing.
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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11268

      #3
      the good thing about a Giraud and a Gracey is, you don't have to measure each case,

      you set the machine to cut at the correct length, (press the shoulder of the round into a 'die' or sorts) and the trimmer trims if necessary,


      if it is still a bit short, then no trimming done,

      when I was shooting service rifle, I ran my brass thru a Gracey trimmer about every 2-3 reloads, (very little stretch)

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      • nf1e
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 2122

        #4
        Originally posted by Sunray
        Trimming should be the second step if it's required. First is checking lengths with a vernier. Then chamfering and deburring after, but you only trim if the case is longer than the max case length. It's not a 'regular' thing.
        It is for me. I run all my brass over the Giraud, just in case a long one got in the mix. Only takes a second. Last step after the second trip through the Thumler and dryer. I also anneal more than most, but I am a stickler for neck tension.

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        • Sunray
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3251

          #5
          "...you don't have to measure each case..." You don't with a vernier either. You lock it at the max case length and use it as a gauge.
          No need to clean more than once. Annealing isn't a regular step either. It's only done when you get one cracked case.
          Things really slow in Connecticut? snicker.
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          • nf1e
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 2122

            #6
            After 50+ years at this stuff, I have found what works for me. Even my generic loadings get better treatment than my dog and the precision, better than my wife. I clean the cases first , before sizing and a second time after sizing to remove lube.

            Last edited by nf1e; 12-11-2020, 11:36.

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            • RC20
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 174

              #7
              Trimming should be the second step if it's required. First is checking lengths with a vernier. Then chamfering and deburring after, but you only trim if the case is longer than the max case length. It's not a 'regular' thing.
              I disagree. Missing here as well is you don't have to trim just to minimum, you can trim more .005 or .010 extras and not be an issue. Ergo, over-trim a bit , run the whole Batch through every 5 firings and never look back. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

              Its so easy with the Gerard that its not an issue time wise unlike many other systems. Works and works gangbusters. As I had not expected too many calibers, I went with Tri Trimmers and with this this seutp its as good or even better then the Gerard motorized as I can locate in in a lot of positions

              Tri Trimmer In Drill.jpg

              That said, downside is the Tri Trimmer is limited on certain case shoulders, and I am going beyond that. So I will be getting a motorized on that has the easy changed cutter and shoulder adapters.

              I have used a motorized Gerard, same with the drill, you can easily process 300 rounds in under 30 minutes.

              For odd calibers if you want to use the vice chucked drill, Trim it II offers those odd calibers (7.5 Swiss). Its got too many adjustments (5 and each has a different size hex) and its a pain to setup, but works almost as good as the Gerard once it is set.
              Last edited by RC20; 12-11-2020, 02:05.

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              • dogtag
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 14985

                #8
                I'd think final operation would be chamfering neck.
                Just nitpicking.

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                • nf1e
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 2122

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dogtag
                  I'd think final operation would be chamfering neck.
                  Just nitpicking.
                  Well, just so happens the Giraud trimmer does the chamfering of the inside and outside of the neck as part of the trimming operation.

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                  • dogtag
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 14985

                    #10
                    Originally posted by nf1e
                    Well, just so happens the Giraud trimmer does the chamfering of the inside and outside of the neck as part of the trimming operation.
                    Wow, I'm impressed. Is the thing full of computers like modern cars ?

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11268

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dogtag
                      Wow, I'm impressed. Is the thing full of computers like modern cars ?
                      better,

                      just plug them in, and push the brass in the hole,



                      bingo it's done,,

                      (after you set it up)

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                      • nf1e
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 2122

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dogtag
                        Wow, I'm impressed. Is the thing full of computers like modern cars ?
                        No computers, it is completely mechanical as is the Giraud anealer.

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                        • dogtag
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 14985

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lyman
                          better,

                          just plug them in, and push the brass in the hole,



                          bingo it's done,,

                          (after you set it up)
                          "After you set it up" I knew they'd be a catch.
                          It's like painting a room - the painting is easy, but prep and clean up are a pain.

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11268

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dogtag
                            "After you set it up" I knew they'd be a catch.
                            It's like painting a room - the painting is easy, but prep and clean up are a pain.
                            the Giraud is easier to set up than a gracey,
                            and yes, both take a minute (or so)

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