And yet another 1868 dated 1868 Springfield...

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  • Fred
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 4977

    #16
    Dick, the hole is for the screw that retains the firing pin. The firing pin is not like the later type we all know of. There's a groove machined out of its side to allow the edge of the screw to pass through. Really a different concept that wasn't adopted in the later 1868's.
    Last edited by Fred; 12-08-2016, 02:34.

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    • Fred
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 4977

      #17
      The tip of the cleaning rod on the number 6 rifle is cupped like the rod on the 1866. The tip on the rod of the number 127 rifle is solid.
      So the rod on number 6 is a type that wasn't adopted.
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      • Fred
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 4977

        #18
        The recess cut into the wood for the thumb piece to settle into is cut 90 degrees into the 6 rifle from the cut in the 127 rifle.
        Also, the thumb piece on the earlier rifle is thicker and is shaped differently and it doesn't come up as high upon opening the latch as on the 127 rifle.
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        Last edited by Fred; 12-07-2016, 05:08.

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        • Fred
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 4977

          #19
          There is no rod retaining spoon in the forearm of the number 6 rifle and no pin either. I've not taken the barrel out of the stock yet.
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          Last edited by Fred; 12-07-2016, 05:14.

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          • Dick Hosmer
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 5993

            #20
            You have really hit the jackpot - there are things there that no one has mentioned before. Do get with Al - he does not audit this site, AFGAIK.

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            • Fred
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 4977

              #21
              I don't know Al Dick. If you get a chance to talk to him, maybe you could bring this thread to his attention.

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              • Dick Hosmer
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 5993

                #22
                Done. Every time I look at your pics I see something a little different. It certainly (having gotten past the 'clamp-on' receiver stage) is not an "1866-68", but it really stops a wee bit short of being a "true" 1868, what with all the little quirks. ANY 68/68 is worth getting excited over, but your new one could possibly be unique.

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                • Fred
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 4977

                  #23
                  It appears to me that the trigger, trigger guard and screws are armory blued and the lockate and hammer seem to have dark finishes too. The bands and band springs were bright, the barrel and cleaning rod were bright as well as the butt plate. Everything else seems to have been darkened.
                  Last edited by Fred; 12-08-2016, 02:28.

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                  • Fred
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 4977

                    #24
                    Dick have you ever had the chance to look at rifles number 1 and 8? I'm wondering if they have any features like on this rifle.
                    Last edited by Fred; 12-08-2016, 02:41.

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                    • Kragrifle
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1161

                      #25
                      Does the cleaning rod screw in like a Second Allin?

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                      • Kragrifle
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1161

                        #26
                        What does the head of the cleaning rod look like?

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                        • Dick Hosmer
                          Very Senior Member - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5993

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Kragrifle
                          What does the head of the cleaning rod look like?
                          There is a picture of that. Head is cupped, otherwise looks "normal" and the rod has the single-shoulder keeper - however - to MY eye - the head of #6 looks to be smaller in diameter than that of #127. Fred?

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                          • Dick Hosmer
                            Very Senior Member - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 5993

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Fred
                            Dick have you ever had the chance to look at rifles number 1 and 8? I'm wondering if they have any features like on this rifle.
                            No, I have never been to SA (but it's on my bucket list). That is one of the reasons I'd like to hear what Al has to say. He travels the midwestern show circuit - maybe you could meet somewhere?

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                            • Dick Hosmer
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 5993

                              #29
                              Not mentioned yet is that the right upper rear of the receiver (adjacent to the "odd" thumblatch notch in the wood) is entirely different as well.

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                              • Fred
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 4977

                                #30
                                Yea I noticed the difference in the contour at the end that top flat. Very interesting. One rounded and one not.
                                Last edited by Fred; 12-08-2016, 09:17.

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