A comparison of two early trapdoors

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  • Fred
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 4977

    #16
    The shaft of the cleaning rod on #6 is noticeably thicker and stiffer than later made rods.
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    • Dick Hosmer
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 5993

      #17
      Different gas-escape cuts too. I'd guess the rod indicated they were going to try to use 66 rods, but it was probably easier to make them new than to weld a lump on an old rod. Welding was in its' infancy.

      Does 6 have a single-shoulder and keeper at upper band, or something else?

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      • bruce
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 3759

        #18
        These TD threads are a never ceasing source of pleasure to read and enjoy. Thank you. Sincerely. bruce.
        " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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        • Dick Hosmer
          Very Senior Member - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 5993

          #19
          Originally posted by bruce
          These TD threads are a never ceasing source of pleasure to read and enjoy. Thank you. Sincerely. bruce.
          Thanks, it is fun!

          With regard to the comment about gas escape cuts, after I'd posted I realized that Fred had compared 6 to a .45-70, NOT another 68. That would explain the major difference (location) but they still look to be much sharper and deeper than most early cuts, some of which are almost invisible.

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          • Fred
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 4977

            #20
            The rod of #6 has one shoulder Dick

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            I did see a rod on a late made 1868 being sold on Gunbroker that also had a cupped end like on this rod.
            How’d it get there? Qien Sabe.
            Last edited by Fred; 09-15-2021, 03:47.

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            • Fred
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 4977

              #21
              Yeah, you’re right Dick.
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              Last edited by Fred; 09-15-2021, 08:50.

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              • Kragrifle
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 1161

                #22
                Didn?t see the inspector marks behind trigger plates?

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                • Fred
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 4977

                  #23
                  Here ya go.
                  This is on number 6.

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                  Last edited by Fred; 09-19-2021, 08:54.

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                  • Fred
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 4977

                    #24
                    This is where the receiver of number 6 was inletted to allow it?s rear sight to be mounted in that location.

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                    • Fred
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 4977

                      #25
                      As you can see, the firing pin on rifle number 6 is retained by a screw that comes in from the side instead of from underneath.
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                      • Dick Hosmer
                        Very Senior Member - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 5993

                        #26
                        By almost destroying the picture, I was able to see into the cavern. When the time comes, it will have to be lit differently. Lotta interesting features to be documented! MAYBE this winter. Problem is I have so DAMN many copies of the original book.

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                        • Fred
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 4977

                          #27
                          I believe that when this rifle was assembled, Springfield Armory was only putting them together one at a time until the basic features of the Model 1868 were finalized for production.
                          That was possibly till serial number 10.
                          Then a block of them (150 ?) were completed for testing and trials.
                          I’d sure like to take a look at rifle number 7, 1 and 8 (in the SA museum), 9 and 10 to see what was was being considered for production
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                          • Fred
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 4977

                            #28
                            The 1866 rear sight...
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                            • Fred
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                              • Sep 2009
                              • 4977

                              #29
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                              • butlersrangers
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                                • May 2012
                                • 533

                                #30
                                Dick - Maybe you could publish a 'companion' booklet, that would supplement your first book.

                                It could include new information, pictures, correct or clarify, and enhance the earlier work.

                                I'd certainly buy one!

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