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  • Lead Snowstorm
    Member
    • Jul 2019
    • 78

    #16
    Originally posted by Dick Hosmer
    I am struck by the fact that it would be great to have the SRS data in a 'modern' DB format, with proper fields, allowing ALL data to be searchable. Maybe someone (much) younger than I could approach Wayne Gagner and see if such exists, or, if not, whether it could be created - which would involve TONS of mind-numbing work (to say nothing of breeding a few errors along the way).
    With all the appropriate legal disclaimers…

    …there is a seller on the original online clearinghouse, which starts with an “e” and rhymes with day, who is advertising just such a thing on a USB stick or the like. Caveats include the questionable right to the info (although IIRC before my time it was posted as a searchable database free of charge by the original fellow behind it) and that it apparently includes - or included - only the 1995 version of the 4th volume. But supposedly the data is taken from a digital database created for the SRS books.

    (I should say I have no idea if everything is searchable in the advertised format.)

    http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=244773
    Last edited by Lead Snowstorm; 12-14-2021, 02:04.

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11266

      #17
      Originally posted by Dick Hosmer
      Vols. 3,4 - nothing found for ND. Vols. 2 (HUGE TD section) and 1 (the original eye-buster!) yet to go.

      I am struck by the fact that it would be great to have the SRS data in a 'modern' DB format, with proper fields, allowing ALL data to be searchable. Maybe someone (much) younger than I could approach Wayne Gagner and see if such exists, or, if not, whether it could be created - which would involve TONS of mind-numbing work (to say nothing of breeding a few errors along the way).

      As I see it, you've got quite a chase. First, there is the basic question - WERE any TDs stamped "ND" (or a 19th century equivalent)? If nothing ever turns up in SRS, the odds are there weren't any, but if one/some does/do, how do you find another? Serial number 'closeness' means absolutely nothing. Perhaps the closest thing might be to check the various unit histories and see which, if any, US troops served there? NOT what you want, I know, but it may be the closest thing you'll ever find.


      I miss the old website where you could just key in a serial number and find out ,

      I'm not computer literate to know what type of database it was stored on,

      I joined SRS a year or so ago, (I have 3 of the books from years past)


      of course, it would be nice if they offered members access to something like the old website,


      honestly tho,, it would be nice if they just updated the current sites,,,

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      • 45govt
        Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 83

        #18
        I did purchase a copy of the SRS on the flash drive and the attached is the search function
        There are "NO DAK" listings but most are university, "DAK" gives mostly "Univ of SO DAK" and "ND" finds i"ND"ian and 2"ND" and so on.

        Here is a screen shot of the search page
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        • Zeb
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2021
          • 11

          #19
          Originally posted by 45govt
          I did purchase a copy of the SRS on the flash drive and the attached is the search function
          There are "NO DAK" listings but most are university, "DAK" gives mostly "Univ of SO DAK" and "ND" finds i"ND"ian and 2"ND" and so on.

          Here is a screen shot of the search page
          [ATTACH=CONFIG]49928[/ATTACH]
          Looks like I have to find serial 52100 hahaha, that is what they called NDSU back on the day. Any rifles assigned to 20th inf?

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          • 45govt
            Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 83

            #20
            Serial number is 535409
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            • 45govt
              Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 83

              #21
              Any rifles assigned to 20th inf?

              Yes, many.
              Serial 71845
              73Rifle

              Capture1.jpg
              Last edited by 45govt; 12-14-2021, 04:24. Reason: none
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              • Zeb
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2021
                • 11

                #22
                Does it say when they where issued? I know a lot of the forts where not used into the 1880s thanks for clarifying the serials.

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                • 45govt
                  Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 83

                  #23
                  All it says is what you see
                  020183 is the date that it was surveyed,inspected...

                  On another note this rifle looks like it had a bad barrel twice??
                  The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms....

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                  • Zeb
                    Junior Member
                    • Dec 2021
                    • 11

                    #24
                    Originally posted by 45govt
                    All it says is what you see
                    020183 is the date that it was surveyed,inspected...

                    On another note this rifle looks like it had a bad barrel twice??
                    That is interesting maybe the same soldier blew up the barrel twice?

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11266

                      #25
                      Originally posted by 45govt
                      All it says is what you see
                      020183 is the date that it was surveyed,inspected...

                      On another note this rifle looks like it had a bad barrel twice??

                      maybe it was surveyed/inspected etc both days, and not repaired,

                      would a bad barrel rifle be in stores , at a unit, or ?? that long?

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                      • Zeb
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2021
                        • 11

                        #26
                        Originally posted by lyman
                        maybe it was surveyed/inspected etc both days, and not repaired,

                        would a bad barrel rifle be in stores , at a unit, or ?? that long?
                        It looks like it was only 8 months apart could have sat in the fort armory until they shipped it to get fixed.

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                        • Merc
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 1690

                          #27
                          https://www.trapdoorcollector.com/FAQ.html

                          Here’s an interesting site with FAQs on TDs.

                          My M1873 has a 1 over 18 stamped on the stock in large numbers (to ID the rack and slot number?) but nothing else to indicate state of origin. Supposedly, the federal govt didn’t mark their TDs in this manner so one would assume it once belonged to the NG or state militia.

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                          • Dick Hosmer
                            Very Senior Member - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 5993

                            #28
                            Excellent site! I suggest posting (and wrote about 99% of the copy for) those FAQs for Al Frasca about 35 years ago - glad to see they are still of use.

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