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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #31
    Originally posted by clintonhater
    No, not when you're 74. But how does this apply to all the under-50 Palestinians (the vast majority of them) who have nothing better to do with their time than throw rocks, burn tires, & plot murders? And who said I believed I was living in Purgatory? My COUNTY, and most of the surrounding ones voted for TRUMP! My House Member is a Republican!
    No jobs, no access to capital, people decide they have nothing to lose for throwing rocks at the people who take the best for themselves that the land has to offer. Zionism is not a long term strategy for success. No doubt in Israeli government vaults sits a report that outlines all the problems with the current policy, just like the US Govt knew that Vietnam was a bad business for decades but fought (and lost) the war anyways.

    Glad your corner of paridise is to your liking.

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    Originally posted by dryheat
    Not my Asia.
    Didn't know you had a personal Asia, but yes, the middle East is SW Asia. This is not new information.

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    • clintonhater
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 5220

      #32
      Originally posted by togor
      No jobs, no access to capital, people decide they have nothing to lose for throwing rocks at the people who take the best for themselves that the land has to offer.
      That's all the more reason to look for greener pastures, as the hordes of Turd Worlders invading Europe are doing. They don't because they're drenched in a culture of hatred, revenge, & self-pity that begins in the cradle & is nurtured every day of their lives by their corrupt leaders.

      Nothing you say, or can say, alters the fact that in 1948, Palestinians chose war over peace...and have instilled that same belief in their descendants up to the present.

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      • S.A. Boggs
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 8568

        #33
        Humans have been pushing other humans and animals out of AO since who knows when. In the U.S. we need to strengthen our border to keep out those who don't belong here. Animals are fighting back as humans encroach on their land, humans are dying at their paw. Life is a struggle against what ever a person encounters in their daily life, fighting germs-bacteria that can and will kill us. Our ship was attacked because it was supplying intelligence to both sides because this was the mission given to it. In reality our ship should not have been then, but that was Navy orders going up the chain of command. The Johnson Administration was never noted for being in good stead in intelligence. I seriously doubt that LBJ could win at Monopoly without cheating. Regardless of anyone's feelings Israel is here to stay and have nuclear weapons to back that up. Palestinians need to accept the fact, change their life IF THEY WANT TO or continue to suffer the ill consequence. Israel is the "safe" haven for any Jew in need of a place to live.
        Sam

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #34
          Originally posted by clintonhater
          That's all the more reason to look for greener pastures, as the hordes of Turd Worlders invading Europe are doing.
          Wait...what? You're suggesting they become refugees? And go where?

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          • clintonhater
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 5220

            #35
            Originally posted by togor
            Wait...what? You're suggesting they become refugees? And go where?
            From the beginning of time, those who start wars they can't finish have had to become refugees--if the victors are merciful enough to let them survive.

            They could start by turning Gaza from the Turd World wasteland it now is--and which ALL Palestine was until the Zionists transformed it into the thriving 1st World nation of Israel--into a functioning state, with some industries other than rocket & bomb making. Before Israel made the mistake of giving it back to the terrorists, the settlers (dragged away by force by the IDF) had already begun the transformation by establishing farms & greenhouses that supplied Israel & Europe with food--all gone back to ruin when the settlers left, and rocket-factories were established in their place.

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            • clintonhater
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 5220

              #36
              Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
              Palestinians need to accept the fact, change their life IF THEY WANT TO or continue to suffer the ill consequence.
              Sam
              Can't change your life when the food & drink of your entire existence is hatred, revenge, self-pity, & absolute denial of responsibility for your plight. The European Jews who survived the Holocaust COULD have stayed where they were to cultivate hatred, revenge, & self-pity, but THEY chose instead to turn an impoverished wasteland, sick with centuries of backwardness & neglect, into the beautiful, prosperous country they now have, & must STILL defend from the envy & malice of the Palestinians.

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #37
                Development of Gaza would take capital, access to a banking system, efficient transportation, untility infrastructure. All things controlled by Israel and which will be unquestionably throttled on the justification that any development of the local economy increases its productive capacity to attack Israel. The Zionists are not Christian and feel no compulsion to show mercy in this situation. You know all of this already but argue your point as though we're too stupid to see through it.

                These Gazans are screwed. Israel as the dominant power in the region gets the lion's share of the blame but obviously Hamas plays a role. Some Gazans in their dispair have decided to sacrifice themselves, to become a blood stain on the conscience of the Zionists, in the hope that something comes of it some day. If they were smart they'd put down their rocks and let the Zionists shoot them down while completely unarmed. But Muslims aren't Christian either so they can't.

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                • clintonhater
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 5220

                  #38
                  Originally posted by togor
                  Development of Gaza would take capital, access to a banking system, efficient transportation, untility infrastructure. All things controlled by Israel and which will be unquestionably throttled on the justification that any development of the local economy increases its productive capacity to attack Israel.
                  Palestine possessed none of those assets before it passed into Israeli control. Israel plays no part in the internal economy of Gaza, & it's an outrageous lie that Israel prevents economic development--EXCEPT for destroying the bomb & rocket factories from time to time. There's a border on the western side with Egypt through which everything needed to provide Gaza with a viable economy could be transported.

                  Capital? BILLIONS from the UN & this country have been poured into Gaza & the West Bank. Vastly more than the world community provided to Israel in 1948.

                  By no means do I think you're "too stupid" to perceive my point--merely too committed to a left-wing ideology! You'd fit right in to any of the Ivy League colleges where anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian, mob scenes are a regular feature of college life.

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