New York's New Abortion Law

[Vern Humphrey]

Seriously, is it stupid to want fewer social parasites on welfare, or clogging the prisons, or voting Democratic?

Is it wise to advocate mass murder to reach that goal?

Would it be morally acceptable to go out and shoot all the "social parasites on welfare?" Let's remember, if you kill an unborn child, you don't KNOW he'll be on welfare -- you might be killing the brilliant scientist who would discover the cure for the disease that will kill you.

[dryheat]

Of course, I'm wrong about abortion eliminating stupid people. The numbers will probably bear it out,abortion eliminates smart people. The dumb just mindlessly crank out kids.

[clintonhater]

Would it be morally acceptable to go out and shoot all the "social parasites on welfare?"

Not necessary to shoot them if they're prevented from being born. If the cost of producing that one brilliant scientist is millions more social parasites & cultural enemies, the cost is much too high.

[dogtag]

I really don't care about abortion.
I do care about partial birth abortion which is murder plain and simple.
New York law may say it's OK, but what does Fed law say ?

[S.A. Boggs]

People that disagree with you cant be compartmentalized into a political ideology. That's a Boggsian approach, and undermines your position.

What I think about your opinion as a National Socialist.
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[Roadkingtrax]

More kids Sam?

[Jiminvirginia]

Funny. No where in my post did I mention that I supported abortion. Personally I find it repulsive. I was simply trying to point out the fact that making it illegal will force it underground and we will still have abortions plus a new set of problems. I offered up some concepts that might help fix this problem but apparently that fell on deaf ears since in the end you all want to treat children as some sort of commodity or political pawns.

[S.A. Boggs]

Funny. No where in my post did I mention that I supported abortion. Personally I find it repulsive. I was simply trying to point out the fact that making it illegal will force it underground and we will still have abortions plus a new set of problems. I offered up some concepts that might help fix this problem but apparently that fell on deaf ears since in the end you all want to treat children as some sort of commodity or political pawns.

The real point is the Legal murder of children in the U.S. under the guise of "rights". How is it O.K. to traffic in human body parts for profit like Planned Parenthood was caught doing. The Third Army hung Nazi's for the murder of children under the legality of the Third Reich. Is society to now say that those who were hung are now innocent? Just because it is "legal" in America are we also saying it was "right" to murder children in the death camps of Nazi controlled Europe? I found it nauseating that Togor is o.k. with abortion yet is shocked at being labeled National Socialist.
Sam

[Vern Humphrey]

The right to life is the fundamental human right. After all, what good is a right to trial by jury if you can simply be killed at whim? What good is freedom of speech to a corpse?

Now some will say, "The government (or society) decides when you get the right to life." If that's true, it isn't a RIGHT at all, just a privilege. After all, what the government grants, the government can withhold. Jews, Blacks, Catholics and so on could be denied the right to life.

If the right to life is a RIGHT, then it accrues to every living human being -- regardless of age, level of development, disability, race or creed. Anyone who denies that denies the whole concept of human rights.

[S.A. Boggs]

More kids Sam?

My Russian friend, in your English class were you not taught to read the captions next to a picture? I must commend you, your English is pretty good, now concentrate on Americanism to do much better. Are you in America or still in Europe just trolling the net?
Sam

[Vern Humphrey]

Funny. No where in my post did I mention that I supported abortion. Personally I find it repulsive. I was simply trying to point out the fact that making it illegal will force it underground and we will still have abortions plus a new set of problems. I offered up some concepts that might help fix this problem but apparently that fell on deaf ears since in the end you all want to treat children as some sort of commodity or political pawns.

Well, yes. Just like having laws against rape drives it underground.

[blackhawknj]

I like to quote the words of the late Professor Elizabeth Fox-Genovese:
"By declaring reproductive to be women's exclusive right, it dismisses the claims of men and cancels their obligations to the next generation."
We have a generation-several generations-of men who could care less about "their" children, resent having them, resent be excluded from the reproductive decision making process except when it comes to pay the bills, and whose attitude towards "their" children is best summed up by the one "deadbeat dad" interviewed by Newsweek who, when asked what sort of relationship he expected to have with his sons if he refused to pay child support, replied, simply:
"None".

[Vern Humphrey]

I like to quote the words of the late Professor Elizabeth Fox-Genovese:
"By declaring reproductive to be women's exclusive right, it dismisses the claims of men and cancels their obligations to the next generation."
We have a generation-several generations-of men who could care less about "their" children, resent having them, resent be excluded from the reproductive decision making process except when it comes to pay the bills, and whose attitude towards "their" children is best summed up by the one "deadbeat dad" interviewed by Newsweek who, when asked what sort of relationship he expected to have with his sons if he refused to pay child support, replied, simply:
"None".

You make a good point. A dead beat dad is simply a man who has had a male abortion. How can we condemn him, and give a pass to a mother who kills her child?

[togor]

Well, yes. Just like having laws against rape drives it underground.

Your blind spots on this subject are huge.

[S.A. Boggs]

Your blind spots on this subject are huge.

Sam