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  • Vern Humphrey
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 15875

    #61
    Bubonic plague is easily treatable, and there is a vaccine for it. No need to panic.

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    • clintonhater
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 5220

      #62
      Originally posted by togor
      No, my point is that people make decisions, quite a few of which are not to your liking, for their own damn reasons.
      It's true that socially pernicious & disruptive "decisions," like the breeding of more social parasites, is "not to my liking," though acceptable to you in the name of "freedom." My "strategy" is the obvious (except to you) one--take away the economic incentive for this behavior.

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      • Vern Humphrey
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 15875

        #63
        Originally posted by clintonhater
        It's true that socially pernicious & disruptive "decisions," like the breeding of more social parasites, is "not to my liking," though acceptable to you in the name of "freedom." My "strategy" is the obvious (except to you) one--take away the economic incentive for this behavior.
        It cannot be denied that our current situation, with massive welfare rolls, poor schools, and so many children born out of wedlock and being raised in single-parent homes is the product of the social tinkering of the 1960s.

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        • dryheat
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 10587

          #64
          Bringing hundreds of thousands of poor people from across the world doesn't help either. The hispanics are so GaGa over the Virgin is because no one's ever seen one.
          If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #65
            Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
            It cannot be denied that our current situation, with massive welfare rolls, poor schools, and so many children born out of wedlock and being raised in single-parent homes is the product of the social tinkering of the 1960s.
            Stagnant hourly wages for the last 50 years don't help



            https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wh...uctivity-link/

            The curves tell it all. Workers used to get paid for what they produced. But not for awhile now, and the gap widens. By all means make people work, but pay them for what they produce too. Or is that too much a radical socialist idea?
            Last edited by togor; 06-07-2019, 11:50.

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            • blackhawknj
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 3754

              #66
              In his book Family and Nation written 30 years ago Daniel Patrick Moynihan pointed out that in 1953 the first 3/4 of the average income-he gave a figure of $8500-was tax exempt, by 1986 only the first third. Here in NJ the sales tax was introduced in 1966-to pay for "education"-it was 5%, now it's 7% and extended to more goods and services. Then there's property taxes. There was another initiative in California following the approval of Proposition 13 to cut the state's income tax, its selling line was "Vote Yourself A Pay Raise !" Letting people keep more of what they earn is a simple way to boost take home pay.

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11269

                #67
                Originally posted by togor
                Stagnant hourly wages for the last 50 years don't help



                https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wh...uctivity-link/

                The curves tell it all. Workers used to get paid for what they produced. But not for awhile now, and the gap widens. By all means make people work, but pay them for what they produce too. Or is that too much a radical socialist idea?
                how much of that is due to automation and better manufacturing tech and technical knowledge ?

                as in has production increased due to technology? better training and streamlining of the work force?
                Last edited by lyman; 06-07-2019, 02:48.

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                • barretcreek
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 6065

                  #68
                  A thought just slithered into my little mind.

                  A plague outbreak, a real "bring out your dead" type thing, could be a real game changer for the 2020 census.

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #69
                    Originally posted by blackhawknj
                    In his book Family and Nation written 30 years ago Daniel Patrick Moynihan pointed out that in 1953 the first 3/4 of the average income-he gave a figure of $8500-was tax exempt, by 1986 only the first third. Here in NJ the sales tax was introduced in 1966-to pay for "education"-it was 5%, now it's 7% and extended to more goods and services. Then there's property taxes. There was another initiative in California following the approval of Proposition 13 to cut the state's income tax, its selling line was "Vote Yourself A Pay Raise !" Letting people keep more of what they earn is a simple way to boost take home pay.
                    A Call for Revolution, by Martin L. Gross illustrates this point. It compares two families living in the same house, one in the '50s, and one a couple of decades later. The family in the '50s, after taxes and mortgage, had about 80% of their income left over. For the more recent family it was reversed -- 80% of their income was eaten up by mortgage and taxes.

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                    • S.A. Boggs
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 8569

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                      A Call for Revolution, by Martin L. Gross illustrates this point. It compares two families living in the same house, one in the '50s, and one a couple of decades later. The family in the '50s, after taxes and mortgage, had about 80% of their income left over. For the more recent family it was reversed -- 80% of their income was eaten up by mortgage and taxes.
                      One of the reasons my family has decided to opt out of the payment rat race. The only thing in our life was our way of looking at the situation, this started last year with the remodeling and it is working. IF we don't have to pay it out the money stays here and not in someone else's pocket book. For one thing we are doing for self rather then buying or buying in bulk whenever possible. We now grow our own produce including potatoes instead of buying at a store. No worry of contamination due to bug spray as we use none, produce is always fresh and no package to get rid of. It was a lot of work to get here but it is paying off in the long run. With the new cooking system our food tastes better and easier to prepare.
                      We went and replaced all of our lighting system with LED, better light, no heat, and cheaper to use. With our home improvement, increased insulation and use of wood to heat our home we have cut our electric bills by over 50% I got a nice letter from AEP one conserving power and they have to generate more to serve more homes. Personally I like the "pay raise" that it gives our family. Whatever the speed limit is we generally go 5-10 miles under and get there on time. It is not conservation but wise thinking and planning. It all started years ago at the local library. I checked out a book entitled THE SELF SUFFICENT LIFE AND HOW TO LIVE IT by John Seymour. I had our daughter get me a copy for my library and the book has helped a great deal on how we live. The wood we burn costs less then electricity, scrap paper I shred and compress into paper bricks that I burn in our stove, the ash goes back into feeding our land. We changed our coffee maker to the K-Cup with a reloadable basket, use less coffee/water/electricity, no paper filter and the coffee ground go to the roe garden and not into the trash. Being Saturday I am baking bread using the grill as my oven to avoid heating up the house and I get a better texture from the grill.
                      Look into your life, what can you do to make it better and decrease the money you spend?
                      Sam

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                      • dryheat
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 10587

                        #71
                        yeah, yeah. You saved money on coffee filters. Oh, and helped the earth. But, I would love to go to your house and partake of the good stuff you've cooked up.
                        If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                        • S.A. Boggs
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 8569

                          #72
                          Originally posted by dryheat
                          yeah, yeah. You saved money on coffee filters. Oh, and helped the earth. But, I would love to go to your house and partake of the good stuff you've cooked up.
                          Cooking/baking is one of my hobbies, my family is "forced" to eat it! For some strange reason Wolf sits by the door watching while I am cooking, she is my food tester. I never season my meat until it is almost done and her portion is already taken care of. She likes her home fries with cheese added and buttered biscuits. Trying fo figure out what I am going to fix this morning.
                          Sam

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