Epstein

[Vern Humphrey]

So you believe, I take it, that Loretta Lynn's husband should have been prosecuted for impregnating her at the age of 15?

Read what you wrote -- he was her HUSBAND. There is a big difference between being a husband and being a sexual predator.

[togor]

CH, not ever having had kids of your own, I wonder how much first hand exposure you have to the subject, or if this is all theoretical to you. Raising kids is messy work true, but most parents, conservative or liberal, have no trouble staying out of the moral pits you have dug.

[clintonhater]

Read what you wrote -- he was her HUSBAND. There is a big difference between being a husband and being a sexual predator.

So your saying that marriage, with all it implies (or should) about a lifetime commitment, raising children, etc., is a LESS serious proposition than merely giving consent to having extra-marital sex? Yes, that's exactly what you're saying! If a so-called "underage" girl is not mentally competent to give consent to extra-marital sex, how can she POSSIBLY be competent to accept the far more serious social & legal responsibilities of marriage?

All the GIs having sex with "underage" girls in the brothels of Saigon, Subic Bay, etc., they were all sexual predators? Or does the uniform make the difference?

[Vern Humphrey]

So your saying that marriage, with all it implies (or should) about a lifetime commitment, raising children, etc., is a LESS serious proposition than merely giving consent to having extra-marital sex? Yes, that's exactly what you're saying!

So you're saying that being a sexual predator is as honorable as marriage? Yes, that's exactly what you're saying!

See how ridiculous it is, when you put words in someone else's mouth?

If a so-called "underage" girl is not mentally competent to give consent to extra-marital sex, how can she POSSIBLY be competent to accept the far more serious social & legal responsibilities of marriage?

Her husband is not a predator -- he commits himself to her. Marriage is an honorable estate. Prostitution is misery and suffering.

All the GIs having sex with "underage" girls in the brothels of Saigon, Subic Bay, etc., they were all sexual predators? Or does the uniform make the difference?

Yes. They are.

[clintonhater]

So you're saying that being a sexual predator is as honorable as marriage?

Again you change the subject. "Honor" isn't the issue--it's mental competence, which is supposed to be why "underage" girls can't consent to having sex. If that's true, it's crazy illogical to say they CAN consent to the far more serious commitments of marriage--such as breeding brats they have no idea how to care for properly.

[S.A. Boggs]

Again you change the subject. "Honor" isn't the issue--it's mental competence, which is supposed to be why "underage" girls can't consent to having sex. If that's true, it's crazy illogical to say they CAN consent to the far more serious commitments of marriage--such as breeding brats they have no idea how to care for properly.

My, My such anger. One would think a nerve has been struck or possibly a twang of guilt?
Sam

[clintonhater]

My, My such anger. One would think a nerve has been struck or possibly a twang of guilt?
Sam

Anger? Where is it? Point out ONE word or phrase suggesting anger.

[Vern Humphrey]

Again you change the subject. "Honor" isn't the issue--it's mental competence, which is supposed to be why "underage" girls can't consent to having sex. If that's true, it's crazy illogical to say they CAN consent to the far more serious commitments of marriage--such as breeding brats they have no idea how to care for properly.

No, the subject is prostitution. YOU brought up the issue of mental competence, and compared sexual predators to husbands.

If you want to talk about the age of consent and the appropriate age for marriage, start another thread.

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My, My such anger. One would think a nerve has been struck or possibly a twang of guilt?
Sam

Sam, I believe you just broke the code.

[clintonhater]

No, the subject is prostitution. YOU brought up the issue of mental competence, and compared sexual predators to husbands.

If you want to talk about the age of consent and the appropriate age for marriage, start another thread.

The subject is UNDERAGE prostitution, which is linked fundamentally with the issue of mental competence. As I pointed out earlier (so obvious, it wouldn't seem necessary, but apparently it is!), Epstein isn't in jail for relations with "of age" prostitutes. UNDERAGE prostitution cannot be considered logically without simultaneously considering the question of mental competence, because the presumed lack of mental competence constitutes the entire legal basis for the theory that "consent doesn't matter" below a certain arbitraily designated age. Are you REALLY incapable of recognizing that absolutely inextricable connection?

The comparison of sexual predators to husbands is a preposterous red herring of your own making, because I didn't say it.

And allow me to point out that you are not the "owner" of this thread, nor the arbiter of what others may say on it.

[Vern Humphrey]

The subject is UNDERAGE prostitution, which is linked fundamentally with the issue of mental competence.

Aha! You admit the subject is prostitution. Marriage is something entirely different and to introduce it into this discussion of prostitution is not only illogical, but downright insulting to married women.

[S.A. Boggs]

No, the subject is prostitution. YOU brought up the issue of mental competence, and compared sexual predators to husbands.

If you want to talk about the age of consent and the appropriate age for marriage, start another thread.

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Sam, I believe you just broke the code.

In his reply he questioned the anger and left the other phase bare, I had a hunch but wasn't sure of it.
Sam

[clintonhater]

In his reply he questioned the anger and left the other phase bare, I had a hunch but wasn't sure of it.
Sam

And you failed, & still fail, to specify the alleged words of anger...because there were none, only a respectfully articulated disagreement. As for "phases," it's beginning to look like you're entering your "second childhood"; or is it just the result of too many chemicals circulating in your cerebral cortex?

So NOW you can have the satisfaction of saying I've exhibited anger!

[S.A. Boggs]

And you failed, & still fail, to specify the alleged words of anger...because there were none, only a respectfully articulated disagreement. As for "phases," it's beginning to look like you're entering your "second childhood"; or is it just the result of too many chemicals circulating in your cerebral cortex?

So NOW you can have the satisfaction of saying I've exhibited anger!

Temper, Temper.
Sam

[clintonhater]

Temper, Temper.
Sam

You're right. After a few minutes of reflection, I'm sorry I succumbed to a momentary impulse of anger, even if it was provoked by unjustified remarks.

[dryheat]

There needs to be rules. Guys want to get some. Young girls want to "do something". "We" can't direct the whole population, but a little decorum is required.