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  • JohnPeeff
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 252

    #16
    Except for the poachers, ivory, rhino horn, etc. the animals shot by trophy hunters are donated to the locals who eat anything from elephant to lion and anything in between .

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11296

      #17
      Originally posted by dogtag
      Trophy hunting should be abolished. If you're not going to eat it, don't kill it.

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      many if not all trophy hunts are paid for,

      hunter pays big $$$,, hopefully harvests the animal he wants (but only if the locals or Gov't says they can cull that animal) and the meat goes to the local tribe,

      nothing is wasted

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      • dogtag
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 14985

        #18
        And we're running out of these beauties.
        At last count only 4,000 Tigers are left in the wild.
        Indians who number about 1,000,000,000 kill Tigers so they won't eat their goats.
        I would much rather see Tigers eating Indians.
        I guess you guys don't give a sh!t about these magnificent beasts.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #19
          I'm with you, DT, but some fraction of humanity is just wired against any competition from other apex predators. The locusts would say that they've got nothing on H. sapiens when it comes to stripping the environment bare.

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          • Allen
            Moderator
            • Sep 2009
            • 10627

            #20
            Originally posted by dogtag
            And we're running out of these beauties.
            At last count only 4,000 Tigers are left in the wild.
            Indians who number about 1,000,000,000 kill Tigers so they won't eat their goats.
            I would much rather see Tigers eating Indians.
            I guess you guys don't give a sh!t about these magnificent beasts.
            My son use to work at the zoo in Gulf Shores, AL. We got to go into the section where they take care of the young animals before putting them in settings for the public to view. This is an old picture (about 15 years ago) of my wife bottle feeding a white Bengal tiger. The 2nd pic is one of the zoo workers. He weighed about 40 pounds at the time. I got to see him again when he was full grown and you could still handle or pet him. As far as I know he is still there.
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            • Vern Humphrey
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 15875

              #21
              Originally posted by JohnMOhio
              I suppose I should put my 2 cents in here. From what I understand, the meat from these animals taken by trophy hunters is donated to the villages in the area.
              Exactly right. If you kill an elephant in Botswana, for example, you are entitled to the tusks (if any) and one foot to make a wastebasket. Everything else, hide, internal organs, meat and bones belongs to the locals, who will butcher it on the spot.

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              Originally posted by dogtag
              And we're running out of these beauties.
              At last count only 4,000 Tigers are left in the wild.
              Indians who number about 1,000,000,000 kill Tigers so they won't eat their goats.
              I would much rather see Tigers eating Indians.
              I guess you guys don't give a sh!t about these magnificent beasts.
              I would consider a man a more magnificent beast -- but I guess you disagree.

              I am all for protecting animals -- but tigers aren't being wiped out by "trophy hunters" (which is a kind of liberal code word) but by local farmers.

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11296

                #22
                Originally posted by dogtag
                And we're running out of these beauties.
                At last count only 4,000 Tigers are left in the wild.
                Indians who number about 1,000,000,000 kill Tigers so they won't eat their goats.
                I would much rather see Tigers eating Indians.
                I guess you guys don't give a sh!t about these magnificent beasts.

                you are talking about 2 different areas,


                Africa, canned hunts or hunts for wild animals, both available
                each animal has a price tag, and that tag, as well as which species, is usually set by the country's government, and or the PH,


                supposedly, if the locals need meat, you may get to kill an animal or 3, with out paying, but the locals get everything,

                and they have problems with poaching as well



                India is a completely different issue

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                • dryheat
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10587

                  #23
                  But basically the problem is too many people. To many poor people, too many rich people. The rain forest is on fire as we speak. I saw this morning that the size of the fire is about half the size of the U.S. The rain forest is an "oxygen machine". Poor people burn it to make room for their cattle. When we get down to the last 500 tigers don't doubt that the price might go up to half a million to shoot one and some rich guy will pay it. But it's OK,'cause they can eat tiger meat. It's for the children.
                  If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11296

                    #24
                    Originally posted by dryheat
                    But basically the problem is too many people. To many poor people, too many rich people. The rain forest is on fire as we speak. I saw this morning that the size of the fire is about half the size of the U.S. The rain forest is an "oxygen machine". Poor people burn it to make room for their cattle. When we get down to the last 500 tigers don't doubt that the price might go up to half a million to shoot one and some rich guy will pay it. But it's OK,'cause they can eat tiger meat. It's for the children.
                    not sure if you can hunt tigers anymore in India,

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                    • Vern Humphrey
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 15875

                      #25
                      Originally posted by dryheat
                      But basically the problem is too many people. To many poor people, too many rich people. The rain forest is on fire as we speak. I saw this morning that the size of the fire is about half the size of the U.S. The rain forest is an "oxygen machine". Poor people burn it to make room for their cattle. When we get down to the last 500 tigers don't doubt that the price might go up to half a million to shoot one and some rich guy will pay it. But it's OK,'cause they can eat tiger meat. It's for the children.
                      There is no price to shoot a tiger -- hunting is prohibited in India.

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