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  • lyman
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11269

    #31
    Originally posted by togor
    So for example one might see that the recent tax law change that limits the SALT deduction for Joe Homeowner, may in fact not put a cramp in Trump's own style, given that he is in the commercial real estate business. And that could look kinda bad, politically. See? You like Rich Guys Who Exploit Loopholes now. Patriotic Americans! But that in itself puts the lie to any call coming out of the Trump White House that America is more than just a way of cashing in. Putting the country first while paying your accountants $2 to get the last $1 of deductions. Sorry, not buying the idea that Loophole Guys are the New Heroes.

    see the bolded,

    that is why folks pay accountants and CPA's to do taxes,,,, not just rich folks

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    • RED
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11689

      #32
      No school records for Trump?

      No school records for Trump? Heres what the National Public Radio had to say in 2015 about his 5 years at a military school.

      "We used to refer to our detention as a 'DT' — a 'Donny Trump' — because he got more of them than most other people in the class," said one of Trump's grade school classmates.

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #33
        Originally posted by lyman
        see the bolded,

        that is why folks pay accountants and CPA's to do taxes,,,, not just rich folks
        Oh come on. Scale matters. I pay my accountant by the hour whether he saves me $1,000,000 or $1,000. The point being I can afford a lot more digging if I stand to gain that much more. Next you'll tell me that rich people don't getter outcomes in the justice system than do the poor, because justice is blind, especially to the color green, and the entire Enterprise of Justice is soberly based on objective evidence that no amount of money can touch.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #34
          Originally posted by RED
          No school records for Trump? Heres what the National Public Radio had to say in 2015 about his 5 years at a military school.

          https://www.npr.org/2015/11/10/45533...-beat-the-game
          Those are anecdotes, not grades. Allen says grades are important. So get with the transcripts, will ya?

          But this quote from the article:
          "My bed wasn't really made right, and he ripped it," said Ted Levine, another student who roomed with Trump at NYMA.
          So even then, Trump was an asshole. Now you love him because he's your asshole, but no mistake, years later, a Lifelong Asshole.

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          • Vern Humphrey
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 15875

            #35
            Originally posted by lyman
            see the bolded,

            that is why folks pay accountants and CPA's to do taxes,,,, not just rich folks
            Amen. If don't have a professional do your taxes, you're a fool! Unless you use Form 1040 EZ.

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            • lyman
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11269

              #36
              Originally posted by togor
              Oh come on. Scale matters. I pay my accountant by the hour whether he saves me $1,000,000 or $1,000. The point being I can afford a lot more digging if I stand to gain that much more. Next you'll tell me that rich people don't getter outcomes in the justice system than do the poor, because justice is blind, especially to the color green, and the entire Enterprise of Justice is soberly based on objective evidence that no amount of money can touch.
              not really, you are no different than trump,

              you pay a person to do a job, and they do it to your satisfaction, you pay the price, and move on

              only real difference is you are paying one person, he is paying multiples,

              just maybe if you ran the percentages the actual cost for you both may be the same,,,,,

              the rest of your comments are irrelevant to the conversation at hand,

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #37
                Originally posted by lyman
                not really, you are no different than trump,

                you pay a person to do a job, and they do it to your satisfaction, you pay the price, and move on

                only real difference is you are paying one person, he is paying multiples,

                j
                Oh come on. Access to resources matters. Access to money matters. You're telling me this isn't the case?

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11269

                  #38
                  Originally posted by togor
                  Oh come on. Access to resources matters. Access to money matters. You're telling me this isn't the case?
                  you are arguing a point that does not matter,

                  does
                  not
                  matter,

                  scale is meaningless,



                  how much money he spends on accountants, I or you spend, Sam spends or Obama spends is irrelevant,

                  the fact that we all have varying degrees of funds to spend is also irrelevant,



                  he is a citizen like you (I think?) and I, how he spends his cash or does his taxes is his, and the IRS's business, just like how you do yours is not anyone else's business,,

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #39
                    You're sidestepping a point that you don't like, which is that the rule book, far from applied equally to all-comers, has wiggle room in it for people who have the means.

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11269

                      #40
                      Originally posted by togor
                      You're sidestepping a point that you don't like, which is that the rule book, far from applied equally to all-comers, has wiggle room in it for people who have the means.
                      no, I understand that money opens doors, and buys things,,

                      I also understand that folks work to get that money and have the right to do what they want to with it,


                      you imply that after a person (or one in particular) makes a certain amount, they should be required to pay more taxes on it,, but they have it and other don't,,

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #41
                        Not implying anything. Go to the other thread and read the definition of loophole. I'm saying that it isn't a social good for people to use their vast wealth to evade the intent of our laws. We may recognize that living with the disease is better than taking the cure, but it doesn't mean that loophole exploiters like Trump and his friends should be recipients of our admiration for their ability to hire lawyers and gin up tax dodges that you and I could never have. If you want an Exhibit A, look at how Trump used his charitable foundation until they made him shut it down.

                        "You like Rich Guys Who Exploit Loopholes now" gets the point across much more quickly, when said sarcastically.
                        Last edited by togor; 09-04-2019, 01:44.

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