Gun deaths in gun free Chicago go unnoticed ...

[togor]

The Liberals/Leftists maintain a deafening silence whenever a citizen uses a handgun for justified self defense-cf. the recent case in Philadelphia where a thug tried to hold up a phone store-at 4PM !

Actually CNN covered the Georgia homeowner who just defended himself against 3 armed would-be robbers

[togor]

Lyman, question for you:

In the past month, I've executed 2 buys. Both out of state sellers so I go to my dealer and fill out 4473s. I ask you: what/how am I supposed to feel about this?

[lyman]

Would love to hear your plan.

my plan is we enforce what we have on the books,

stop letting folks get away with stuff,

if it is a culture thing, then speak to those in the community, see if they want to change, if not, just keep enforcing the rules and move on,


simple, ,

no need to restrict my or anyone's rights cause someone else broke the law,, fix the reason why they broke it, and prosecute,,

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Lyman, question for you:

In the past month, I've executed 2 buys. Both out of state sellers so I go to my dealer and fill out 4473s. I ask you: what/how am I supposed to feel about this?

sellers remorse?

happy you have a pocket full of cash?

you have the buyers info if needed, no need to do anything else

[togor]

So you answered a question with a question instead of giving an answer.

[lyman]

how the heck am I to know how you feel about a sale?

next time just take the gun and cut it to pieces if it makes you feel better,

geez

[togor]

how the heck am I to know how you feel about a sale?

next time just take the gun and cut it to pieces if it makes you feel better,

geez

No the fact that I have to submit to a 4473. Constitutional outrage or a fact of life?

[lyman]

No the fact that I have to submit to a 4473. Constitutional outrage or a fact of life?

rules of the state you live in,

[togor]

rules of the state you live in,

So not a Constitutional outrage. So explain how it's a big deal to mandate NICS checks on FTF sales or to report lost or stolen firearms. I don't see it. Have a family/friend exception if you want.

Your plan is the status quo. Or are you willing to pay more taxes so that law enforcement can up enforcement of existing laws? And saying "they can do it with the money they have" is the same as changing nothing. So your position amounts to....change nothing.

[lyman]

my plan will not happen,


it's not new, not popular with the politicians and folks in charge, and does not fit the current narrative,
it also shows that enforcemest was lax in the past, and shows that the folks in charge did nothing to help, or enforce,
and since they are elected, appointed, and in charge, they cannot be wrong,, correct?


answer me this,

why do you want to continue to restrict other peoples rights because 'something' has to be done?




and you seem to go this route about once a month, do you have this on your calendar?

[togor]

How are background checks or reporting of lost/stolen firearms restricting rights? You say I do something every month but you can't describe it correctly. You're in the business of running background checks for a fee. Are you restricting people's firearms rights?

[lyman]

nope, I am required to do it for each sale I do,

I have to run the check, and the state charges $2,
only fee I charge is for transfers, $25 per,



the rest, go back and reread your past posts,,


this game is getting old

[togor]

I am not a red flag guy. I am a background check guy, and I don't understand how background checks don't impinge on gun rights when you run them, but do impinge on rights if they are generally required as a matter of law. Glad to read if you can explain that one to me. Wasn't intended as a game.