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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #76
    Originally posted by togor
    Of course, as you know, police are allowed to "shut down" and start shooting the moment they feel afraid.
    Togor, You were never a policeman..so were did you get that they are allowed to shut down and start shooting when they feel afraid? Funny in my police career I was always told to never shoot unless it is to defend yourself or others, and only if there is no other option...

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    • clintonhater
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 5220

      #77
      Originally posted by togor
      Expecting terrified civilians to be 100% perfect at the risk of their own life...
      I don't, but like I said, this guy should not be driving a car, as doing that means sooner or later you're going to have to deal with cops.

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      • clintonhater
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 5220

        #78
        Originally posted by rayg
        Funny in my police career I was always told to never shoot unless it is to defend yourself or others, and only if there is no other option...
        Who was the cop who MURDERED Philandro Castile defending? "I feared for my life," so he walked. WHAT! The whole episode recorded on film, but he walked! You'd defend that miserable coward?

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        • rayg
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 7444

          #79
          Police killed so far in 2020 in line of duty incidents..

          https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/pr...e-line-of-duty
          Last edited by rayg; 05-29-2020, 06:21.

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #80
            Ray have you watched the George Floyd video? Guessing you haven't. Come back when you have, because you'll bring a new perspective. The reality that LEOs die in the line of duty should not be proffered as an excuse for those who betray their oath.

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            • S.A. Boggs
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 8569

              #81
              Originally posted by rayg
              Togor, You were never a policeman..so were did you get that they are allowed to shut down and start shooting when they feel afraid? Funny in my police career I was always told to never shoot unless it is to defend yourself or others, and only if there is no other option...
              @ the academy the Prosecutor told us that EVERY ROUND we fired we were RESPONSIBLE for where it went and what it did. If what we did was illegal the color of law would be applied. Ray, you will get no where with Togey, he argues with his reflection!
              Sam

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              • rayg
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 7444

                #82
                I know! just always playing him, he always goes on an on trying to prove his liberal perspective, it's fun ...Lol...
                Last edited by rayg; 05-30-2020, 05:18.

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #83
                  Ray this isn't about me. Watch the Minneapolis vid.

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                  • rayg
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 7444

                    #84
                    Togor Quote..Ray this isn't about me. Watch the Minneapolis vid.

                    Yes it is...
                    Timed you..3 minutes for your reply...By the way..that alert site you use works well...Did you happen to see the list all the police officers killed so far this year I posted. And of course you approve of all the riots and lives lost and criminal damage to innocent people. For this one incident....Justice will be done in the courts with it. But the rioters don't give a poop and neither do you. All you want to do spout your dislike for police..Would you be honest if I asked you, how many times you have been arrested or had negative contacts with the police you felt were unjust . I know no felonies as you can own guns.. Besides all that, you're a died in the wool liberal..Doesn't make you bad..but does say were you are coming from with your posts.....Lol
                    Last edited by rayg; 05-30-2020, 05:45.

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #85
                      So you admit you're making it about me, while I'm trying to discuss an issue.

                      Yes police die in the line of duty. How does this excuse what that guy did? You need to watch the video.

                      Someone at gunboards posted a stat, that police kill 4.5X as many people as mass shooters, and 99% of the time they get off. That 99% stat can be read a couple of ways.

                      The way the Supreme Court has it, if a cop feels afraid, he has a license to kill. Chauvin will claim fear in his defense, but when you watch the video you won't see a scared cop anywhere in sight.

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                      Added: I can access this site on my mobile phone, like many guys. So if you think I'm hunkered down at my computer, wrong assumption.

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11270

                        #86
                        Originally posted by rayg
                        I know! just always playing him, he always goes on an on trying to prove his liberal perspective, it's fun ...Lol...
                        it's not for someone that has to read 9 pages of literal BS to make sure yall stay in line ,,,,,,,,,,

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                        • rayg
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 7444

                          #87
                          Are you implying I should not reply to him so much? If so, I will stop..but you would be ruining my fun...I pretty much try to stay in line though..Lol
                          Last edited by rayg; 05-30-2020, 06:06.

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                          • togor
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 17610

                            #88
                            Ray please watch the vid, tell us what you see.

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                            • oscars
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 551

                              #89
                              NPR recently reported that white officers were no more likely to shoot minorities than whites. Furthermore approximarely twice as many whites were killed by police as compared to blacks. Another report that appeared in the PNAS stated that between 90 and 95 % of those individuals shot by police were in the process of attacking another civilian or a police officer. Strikes me as ironical that neither of these sources will be mentioned by Don Lemon on CNN.

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                              • togor
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 17610

                                #90
                                Those stats leave a lot of room bad outcomes of the sort that simmer in the public mind, especially in this era of cheap video surveillance. But probably worth repeating that police have a messy dangerous job and most outcomes are passably close to going by the book. The debate is over what excuses should be allowed and by whom when things go south.
                                Last edited by togor; 05-30-2020, 07:02.

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