"We All Do Stupid Things At 17"

[S.A. Boggs]

Here is the link to the statute, 939.48

http://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/939/iii/48

While reading the statute notice that it refers to self-defense as a privilege, not a right. Not a lawyer but would expect that shifts the burden of proof somewhat to the shooter.

This could be made invalid due to the Supreme Court decision of the 90's stating that THE INDIVIDUAL DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT OF POLICE PROTECTION. Which simply states that it is up to the individual to protect self. The 2nd Amendment states otherwise as does Common Law in general acceptance. This statue protect the criminal not the citizen which makes no sense.
Togey is anti police and pro criminal by his various musings. Togey still has not answered is Togey a felon who cannot vote?
Sam

[rayg]

I would imagine the circumstances of the action would indicate what section of that law would apply..

[Vern Humphrey]

US Constitution:

Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

That is the right to life -- that every citizen has. Inherent in the right to life is the right to self-defense.

[togor]

US Constitution:

Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

That is the right to life -- that every citizen has. Inherent in the right to life is the right to self-defense.

This is why WI law places such a high threshold on the legal use of lethal force. To kill someone is to deny them due process.

[S.A. Boggs]

This is why WI law places such a high threshold on the legal use of lethal force. To kill someone is to deny them due process.

If one is dead what good/need is there for due process. What you stated makes no sense if one is dead.
Sam

[Vern Humphrey]

If one is dead what good/need is there for due process. What you stated makes no sense if one is dead.
Sam

In his imagination, people don't really die -- they're merely inconvenienced.

[lyman]

If one is dead what good/need is there for due process. What you stated makes no sense if one is dead.
Sam

you ask that question and claim to have been in Law Enforcement??

[S.A. Boggs]

you ask that question and claim to have been in Law Enforcement??

Sorry, I forgot what I was talking to.
Sam