Of what possible interest could this be to Anybody ? ...

[dogtag]

except the car makers - but not racing fans.
I grew up watching Moss, Fangio, Collins and Gonzalez whizzing
around the track, overtaking and being overtaken. Later it was
Senna, but when it became obvious that races were decided in
the Pits not on the track I lost interest and stopped watching.
I found that kind of racing was boring because the guy who got
out in front at the start usually stayed there. Fans followed drivers
not the cars so what interest could there be in driverless ones
except as I said, the makers ? But if no one watches or cares,
then of what use is a victory ?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Las-Vegas.html

They're taking the fun out of everything.

[lyman]

I was a Prost Fan,
his races with Senna were usually very good,
no fuel stops, start with a full tank and end on empty
3 or 4 second tire stops,



when Beneton\Schumacher took over for years, (even when he went to Ferrari) it got boring and I dropped out of F1 watching,
have not watched a race in years,

[one shot]

Maybe they're trying to sell the public on the viability of autonomous cars and trucks in the future . Count me out .

[Allen]

At least auto racing somewhat relates to what we do every day in life even if they do drive in a counter clockwise oval. We all drive. We don't all play basketball or play golf.

A lot of the safety features that ended up on our cars came from the racing industry. They use to race what we had available to us to buy plus the modifications of course. In real life, if racing was what it use to be they would have to drive tiny rice grinder looking cars with dinky 4 cylinder transverse mounted engines along with the cars being front wheel drive. Instead they are made from the ground up to resemble a car.

Things constantly change but the last I read was NASCAR was limited to a 368 ci pushrod engine so that is what is made and installed. No one makes this engine for the public that I know of. Though they have no doors they were built to resemble a two door coupe. Previous body styles were the Ford Taurus, and Toyota WTF, none of which were built in a 2 door style or rear wheel drive. Now they race the Infinity cars which are Mustangs, Camaro's and Supra styled cars so there's some realism there.

Racing electric cars? I'm all for it because they are new to the market and probably have a world of improvements needed, primarily battery life and faster charging capability. As they are used for racing the inherit problems will expose themselves, improvements made and modifications made that will surely bleed over into the dealer production that will be offered to us.

After reading the article better and seeing the pictures I see they are speaking of F1 racing (sorry) and with that I will agree with everyone else but the electric cars will no doubt be used for NASCAR soon as well. NASCAR relates more to what we drive. Driverless F1 cars will be like watching drones fly.

Still, the more they are used the better they will become and it sure looks like they are here to stay not only elec but the driverless technology which so far kinda sucks.

[Allen]

I wonder if the push to driverless cars is so that no one named Brandon will be winning any more races?

[dryheat]

Electric cars, brought to you by Climate Change.

[Allen]

Electric cars, brought to you by Climate Change.

Yep, the emissons eliminated by reducing the number of fuel driven engines will be made up with the increased emissions of the power plants having to raise their output. Then there will be the issue of battery disposal.

On the flip side I read where Ford developed a 1400hp electric Mustang Cobra Jet that will go 0 to 170mph in 8 seconds and that is also the 1/4 mile standing.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=yfp-t&ei=UTF-8&p=mustang+gt+electric+1400+for+sale#id=4&vid=1fe85c0e76b082ba269d36f9bda45c33&action=view

[togor]

Parts count alone gives electric motors a big advantage over internal combustion engines. Plus no valves to leak, no piston rings, none of the messy lubrication, no valve trains, lower bearing count, no gearboxes. A lot to love there from a manufacturing standpoint.

But copper is a serious problem, not a green mining operation. Aluminum wire would be cheaper, and greener, but has 2x the losses.

Right now EV manufacturers are throwing every exotic element they can into the designs in pursuit of performance. Eventually they will have to learn how to make these things out of the common elements in the environment.

[Johnny P]

Without the noise, racing is nothing more than watching large slot cars. Of course there will be the "Let's Go Brandon", so not entirely silent.

Wonder how long they are given to recharge the batteries to make it 500 miles all out?

[dryheat]

Parts count alone gives electric motors a big advantage over internal combustion engines. Plus no valves to leak, no piston rings, none of the messy lubrication, no valve trains, lower bearing count, no gearboxes. A lot to love there from a manufacturing standpoint.

But copper is a serious problem, not a green mining operation. Aluminum wire would be cheaper, and greener, but has 2x the losses.

Right now EV manufacturers are throwing every exotic element they can into the designs in pursuit of performance. Eventually they will have to learn how to make these things out of the common elements in the environment.

Well, use #10 wire. Aluminun weighs a lot less than copper. Just kidding, electronics is apples not oranges. My whole house is in aluminum (probably not code these days) but I've never had a problem. Well, if I ad copper then there is some dissimilarity that requires really tightening the nuts.

[lyman]

Well, use #10 wire. Aluminun weighs a lot less than copper. Just kidding, electronics is apples not oranges. My whole house is in aluminum (probably not code these days) but I've never had a problem. Well, if I ad copper then there is some dissimilarity that requires really tightening the nuts.

mid 60's build house?


that's about the time they used Aluminum here, up until the mid 70's IIRC.

now against code

[togor]

Well, use #10 wire. Aluminun weighs a lot less than copper. Just kidding, electronics is apples not oranges. My whole house is in aluminum (probably not code these days) but I've never had a problem. Well, if I ad copper then there is some dissimilarity that requires really tightening the nuts.

That is a valid point. Aluminum has 1/3 the density of copper. You give some of that up to match electrical performance but there is a feasible solution there.

[Johnny P]

It isn't that the aluminum conductor doesn't have enough current carrying capacity, but that it's expansion ration is greater than copper. Constant tightening and loosening of the connection under load loosens the connection, causing it to overheat. It can be fixed by adding a copper connector to the end of the aluminum conductor, but not cheap.

[dogtag]

As Le Mans cars are allowed only gas fill ups and wheel changes
how could an electric car's battery last for 24 hours ?

[kj47]

They will have to go to Energizer batteries!