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  • Allen
    Moderator
    • Sep 2009
    • 10583

    #46
    Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
    Radar of the area will show the area of shootdown so location is a mute point.
    Agree. Drones are flown remotely so the people controlling them know the coordinates, speed, direction and all other vitals. That's what makes them a drone plus they are sending back camera footage for further reference. Losing transmission or contact would have been known live at the very moment it happened.

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    • Vern Humphrey
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 15875

      #47
      Originally posted by Allen
      Agree. Drones are flown remotely so the people controlling them know the coordinates, speed, direction and all other vitals. That's what makes them a drone plus they are sending back camera footage for further reference. Losing transmission or contact would have been known live at the very moment it happened.
      At the same time, if the wreckage has fallen into their hands, that would be an intelligence coup for them -- getting hold of our technology.

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      • Allen
        Moderator
        • Sep 2009
        • 10583

        #48
        Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
        At the same time, if the wreckage has fallen into their hands, that would be an intelligence coup for them -- getting hold of our technology.
        They already have one of our B2 style drones un-damaged. Some say it landed there, some say that Iran has the ability to guide in down. A gift from obama?

        For the life of me I don't know why all U.S. equipment doesn't have some means of self destruction or remote control destruction. We go through this every time a hostile nation gets equipment from us.

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #49
          Originally posted by Allen
          They already have one of our B2 style drones un-damaged. Some say it landed there, some say that Iran has the ability to guide in down. A gift from obama?

          For the life of me I don't know why all U.S. equipment doesn't have some means of self destruction or remote control destruction. We go through this every time a hostile nation gets equipment from us.
          I remember that. The State Department produced a neat radio for the Viet Namese. It had both AM and FM capabilities (so a man on the ground could talk to aircraft.) It had a self-destruct button to keep it from falling intact into enemy hands.

          During training, when you mentioned the self-destruct, half the class would jump up and run off screaming. The other half would say, "THIS button?" ZAP!

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #50
            There's lots of things Allen doesn't understand. Self-destructs are great on Star Trek. Most other places they just get in the way of the mission.

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            • Allen
              Moderator
              • Sep 2009
              • 10583

              #51
              Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
              I remember that. The State Department produced a neat radio for the Viet Namese. It had both AM and FM capabilities (so a man on the ground could talk to aircraft.) It had a self-destruct button to keep it from falling intact into enemy hands.

              During training, when you mentioned the self-destruct, half the class would jump up and run off screaming. The other half would say, "THIS button?" ZAP!
              Our technology has improved so much since then though. Any drone could be equipped and controlled to explode as well as fly since it is in fact controlled by an outside source. Planes, even our own, should have some type of destruction capabilities in case they fell into the wrong hands or sold to an ally country that later turned against us. The plane wouldn't necessarily have to explode since human life is involved but the avionics could be equipped to fry or engine thrust controlled etc... While some countries would balk at such it could benefit them too unless they had intentions of using the planes against us in the first place.

              We've all heard of isolated incidences where some ones car was shut down via the GPS, OnStar roadside assistance knowing you have a breakdown even w/o reporting it or subscribing to it along with police bait cars where the car is shut down and locked when stolen using remote control and more lately, self driving cars. Think what may be and should be available in a multi-million dollar piece of surveillance equipment since most technology mentioned has been around for decades.

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              • Vern Humphrey
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 15875

                #52
                Originally posted by Allen
                Our technology has improved so much since then though. Any drone could be equipped and controlled to explode as well as fly since it is in fact controlled by an outside source. Planes, even our own, should have some type of destruction capabilities in case they fell into the wrong hands or sold to an ally country that later turned against us. The plane wouldn't necessarily have to explode since human life is involved but the avionics could be equipped to fry or engine thrust controlled etc... While some countries would balk at such it could benefit them too unless they had intentions of using the planes against us in the first place.
                Why would we tell them? Let them find out the hard way, at the appropriate time.

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                • S.A. Boggs
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 8568

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                  Why would we tell them? Let them find out the hard way, at the appropriate time.
                  "May the Iranians live in interesting times!"
                  Sam

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11269

                    #54
                    interesting read,


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                    • barretcreek
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 6065

                      #55
                      Originally posted by lyman
                      Thanks for posting.

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                      • Allen
                        Moderator
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 10583

                        #56
                        Originally posted by lyman
                        That DOES put a different spin on things.

                        Thanks for posting.

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                        • Roadkingtrax
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 7835

                          #57
                          So the US provacated the hit? That makes sense and would support Iran's act of shooting it down.
                          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                          • dryheat
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 10587

                            #58
                            What's a 180 million dollar drone worth at the yard sale? 'bout $5.
                            If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                            • Vern Humphrey
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 15875

                              #59
                              The US intelligence system doing something SMART? Will wonders never cease!

                              I'm reminded of what Bill Buckley said about the attempted assassination of Sukarno, "It had all the earmarks of a CIA operation. Everybody in the room was killed BUT Sukarno."

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                              • togor
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 17610

                                #60
                                Interesting read but the narrative is a bit too tidy for the real world

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