More liberal suppression of conservatives

[togor]

Welfare is, in some segments of society, an economic strategy -- young girls get pregnant in order to get welfare. The result is a high-school dropout living in a subsidized apartment with a baby and welfare. That gets boring, so party time! That's the source of a lot of our problems -- and we created them with our eyes open. Daniel Patrick Moynihan saw it coming and wrote reports about it when he was still a bureaucrat, before he became a senator. And we did it anyway.

Chicken or Egg? Egg or Chicken?

Vernon, even as an arch anti-abortionist, and probably anti-birth-control also, you have to know that f*cking is something even poor people can do as well as everyone else, and, unless circumstances are controlled, fertilized eggs--or as you call them, human beings--are going to be produced as a result. Obviously you're prepared to leave them to starve if they commit the sin of being born of the wrong mother--sorry, welfare baby of a welfare queen, too bad, sucks to be you. But how does that work theologically? At what point did they go from being human beings worthy of the fullest protections of the law to varmints that have to be sacrificed in order to make a larger societal point about the value of work and f*cking responsibly? It's too bad you won't read this because this really is a huge hole in your logic. Maybe someone else will pick up the challenge and have a go.

[S.A. Boggs]

Welfare is, in some segments of society, an economic strategy -- young girls get pregnant in order to get welfare. The result is a high-school dropout living in a subsidized apartment with a baby and welfare. That gets boring, so party time! That's the source of a lot of our problems -- and we created them with our eyes open. Daniel Patrick Moynihan saw it coming and wrote reports about it when he was still a bureaucrat, before he became a senator. And we did it anyway.

National Socialists are usually for "giving" something as long as it benefits their party...i.e. political power. Nazi's don't care UNLESS it benefits their party and nothing more. With the "pill" available females can avoid becoming pregnant, imagine that. Babies can =$ for some people, taking the pill can prevent a female as people know. Taking the pill prevents females from getting government money and other benefits. Nazi's don't want to stop females from getting pregnant as it is just another way to secure votes for their party and more political power.
Vern, if National Socialists weren't so pathic they would be laughable! Never wanting to taking responsible for self, always needing an excuse for why it was not their fault. Society "owes" you this because [fill in the blank] and "we" will give it to you, just vote for us. 50 years ago blacks now became an asset instead of a liability so the left went to woo their vote after condaming them for years! Look how well the black family is doing, not to mention the black race. Fatherless family, "margarine" females, high crime, and NO HOPE! Now comes a man who is slowly changing this and what is the first thing the Nazi's do? Why of course, label the President racist to cast another stone in his direction. Now the black voter is seeing different and it is the "poor undocumented" who the Nazi's are rooting for. I have to admire them for their ability to lie like a cheap rug, a very cheap rug!
Sam

[lyman]

Welfare is, in some segments of society, an economic strategy -- young girls get pregnant in order to get welfare. The result is a high-school dropout living in a subsidized apartment with a baby and welfare. That gets boring, so party time! That's the source of a lot of our problems -- and we created them with our eyes open. Daniel Patrick Moynihan saw it coming and wrote reports about it when he was still a bureaucrat, before he became a senator. And we did it anyway.

agreed, and look at gerrymander too,

Chicken or Egg? Egg or Chicken?

Vernon, even as an arch anti-abortionist, and probably anti-birth-control also, you have to know that f*cking is something even poor people can do as well as everyone else, and, unless circumstances are controlled, fertilized eggs--or as you call them, human beings--are going to be produced as a result. Obviously you're prepared to leave them to starve if they commit the sin of being born of the wrong mother--sorry, welfare baby of a welfare queen, too bad, sucks to be you. But how does that work theologically? At what point did they go from being human beings worthy of the fullest protections of the law to varmints that have to be sacrificed in order to make a larger societal point about the value of work and f*cking responsibly? It's too bad you won't read this because this really is a huge hole in your logic. Maybe someone else will pick up the challenge and have a go.

we could argue that till the chickens come home to roost,,,,

just quoting the entire post for the heck of it

National Socialists are usually for "giving" something as long as it benefits their party...i.e. political power. Nazi's don't care UNLESS it benefits their party and nothing more. With the "pill" available females can avoid becoming pregnant, imagine that. Babies can =$ for some people, taking the pill can prevent a female as people know. Taking the pill prevents females from getting government money and other benefits. Nazi's don't want to stop females from getting pregnant as it is just another way to secure votes for their party and more political power.
Vern, if National Socialists weren't so pathic they would be laughable! Never wanting to taking responsible for self, always needing an excuse for why it was not their fault. Society "owes" you this because [fill in the blank] and "we" will give it to you, just vote for us. 50 years ago blacks now became an asset instead of a liability so the left went to woo their vote after condaming them for years! Look how well the black family is doing, not to mention the black race. Fatherless family, "margarine" females, high crime, and NO HOPE! Now comes a man who is slowly changing this and what is the first thing the Nazi's do? Why of course, label the President racist to cast another stone in his direction. Now the black voter is seeing different and it is the "poor undocumented" who the Nazi's are rooting for. I have to admire them for their ability to lie like a cheap rug, a very cheap rug!
Sam

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[clintonhater]

It's too bad you won't read this because this really is a huge hole in your logic. Maybe someone else will pick up the challenge and have a go.

There's no hole in the logic that creating an economic incentive, a reward, for irresponsible breeding generates more of the same; how could it not, especially among the poor? But opposing BOTH child welfare & abortions, the activities of Planned Parenthood, etc., IS illogical, because the stupid & irresponsible aren't, as you point out, going to stop breeding, even if restrictions were put on welfare payments. Compulsory sterilization of "repeat offenders" would be far preferable to abortion, but it's absurd to hope for that.

[Vern Humphrey]

There's no hole in the logic that creating an economic incentive, a reward, for irresponsible breeding generates more of the same; how could it not, especially among the poor? But opposing BOTH child welfare & abortions, the activities of Planned Parenthood, etc., IS illogical, because the stupid & irresponsible aren't, as you point out, going to stop breeding, even if restrictions were put on welfare payments. Compulsory sterilization of "repeat offenders" would be far preferable to abortion, but it's absurd to hope for that.

The problem is simple -- the Great Society was pushed as being "for the children.' There are far more children living below the poverty line now than there were in the 1960s.

One thing the Great Society did was push girls of 16 or so to get pregnant, and rewarding them with welfare. The best solution is to create a society where young girls finish school, and marry responsible men -- and both of them are qualified to get good jobs and support themselves. But nobody wants to do that.

[S.A. Boggs]

The problem is simple -- the Great Society was pushed as being "for the children.' There are far more children living below the poverty line now than there were in the 1960s.

One thing the Great Society did was push girls of 16 or so to get pregnant, and rewarding them with welfare. The best solution is to create a society where young girls finish school, and marry responsible men -- and both of them are qualified to get good jobs and support themselves. But nobody wants to do that.

That sounds like "work" a four letter word. Apparently the 16 YO like the "other" four letter word, they use it to describe everything!
Sam

[togor]

The best solution is to create a society where young girls finish school, and marry responsible men -- and both of them are qualified to get good jobs and support themselves. But nobody wants to do that.

Turns out that suburban liberals right now have the highest marriage rates, in no small part because their higher education level means they have lower monetary stress. (It turns out that fights over money are a marriage killer!) If the products of Vernon's social engineering exercise chose to vote overwhelmingly Democratic, would he still favor it? Whether he would or not, social engineers give me a bad feeling.

[dryheat]

-Quote Originally Posted by S.A. Boggs View Post
National Socialists are usually for "giving" something as long as it benefits their party...i.e. political power. Nazi's don't care UNLESS it benefits their party and nothing more. With the "pill" available females can avoid becoming pregnant, imagine that. Babies can =$ for some people, taking the pill can prevent a female as people know. Taking the pill prevents females from getting government money and other benefits. Nazi's don't want to stop females from getting pregnant as it is just another way to secure votes for their party and more political power.
Vern, if National Socialists weren't so pathic they would be laughable! Never wanting to taking responsible for self, always needing an excuse for why it was not their fault. Society "owes" you this because [fill in the blank] and "we" will give it to you, just vote for us. 50 years ago blacks now became an asset instead of a liability so the left went to woo their vote after condaming them for years! Look how well the black family is doing, not to mention the black race. Fatherless family, "margarine" females, high crime, and NO HOPE! Now comes a man who is slowly changing this and what is the first thing the Nazi's do? Why of course, label the President racist to cast another stone in his direction. Now the black voter is seeing different and it is the "poor undocumented" who the Nazi's are rooting for. I have to admire them for their ability to lie like a cheap rug, a very cheap rug!
Sam-

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No kidding. A lot of things wrong with that post. Because of the Nazi talk I won't even respond to this.

[S.A. Boggs]

-Quote Originally Posted by S.A. Boggs View Post
National Socialists are usually for "giving" something as long as it benefits their party...i.e. political power. Nazi's don't care UNLESS it benefits their party and nothing more. With the "pill" available females can avoid becoming pregnant, imagine that. Babies can =$ for some people, taking the pill can prevent a female as people know. Taking the pill prevents females from getting government money and other benefits. Nazi's don't want to stop females from getting pregnant as it is just another way to secure votes for their party and more political power.
Vern, if National Socialists weren't so pathic they would be laughable! Never wanting to taking responsible for self, always needing an excuse for why it was not their fault. Society "owes" you this because [fill in the blank] and "we" will give it to you, just vote for us. 50 years ago blacks now became an asset instead of a liability so the left went to woo their vote after condaming them for years! Look how well the black family is doing, not to mention the black race. Fatherless family, "margarine" females, high crime, and NO HOPE! Now comes a man who is slowly changing this and what is the first thing the Nazi's do? Why of course, label the President racist to cast another stone in his direction. Now the black voter is seeing different and it is the "poor undocumented" who the Nazi's are rooting for. I have to admire them for their ability to lie like a cheap rug, a very cheap rug!
Sam-

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No kidding. A lot of things wrong with that post. Because of the Nazi talk I won't even respond to this.

Who cares??? National Socialism is real per the new Democratic Party and their vision of America. This is not made up, this is what they are telling America all one has to do is to open their closed mind.
I am not a PC person, one to sugar coat what I want to say. A little bit pregnant is still pregnant, eventually what is will soon show. If one has an opposing opinion based on fact, let's hear it instead of just "hurt feelings", this is so juvenile. My parents version of the Democratic Party is dead, dead, dead. Just listen to the Democratic platform to see what now is accepted Socialism!
Dealing with a person who has just been diagnosed with a mental illness one get's resistance. Many on this board don't like the term "Nazi", well neither do I but it is reality now in America. The Democratic Party of today is pushing socialism by their own words, being a party of the national how can they not be "National Socialist?" Perhaps DH would "feel" better if I called the Democrats "Mary Poppins" so as not to "hurt" one's feelings!
Sam

[togor]

Not hurt feelings. Just unhinged to the point of being nonsense. He's right, there are problems galore in there, but it's so nutty, including the Nazi bits, that it's not worth it. Heck I'm only posting to get to #100. Most threads don't get nearly that far.

[lyman]

, social engineers give me a bad feeling.

I thing we can all agree on that,

[Ltdave]

In Chicago, NYC, DC, etc., their fate is sealed by laws which prohibit the "honest people" from arming themselves for their own defense.

i am SO GLAD, you didnt include Detroit in that statement...

Michigan has preemption laws on the books and Detroit has no more stringent gun laws than the rest of the state AND the BLACK Chief of Police James Craig called for law abiding and good people to take up arms in 2013 amid the city's bankruptcy when the PD was short staffed...